Layer switching is the problem, not layering itself

[Trollsbane-herod]

I’m not saying that the entire post is untrue, because a quick database query can reveal who has more than X amount of materials which is obvious abuse (and deserves an instant ban).

HOWEVER, the part about the economy being affected is irrelevant, Devilsaur Mafias have historically released farmed materials on a controlled amount to get the most amount out of what they have, and not drop the price irreparably, in fact this is not just a technique used on private servers but also on actual economics, just take a look at cryptocurrency and how the big holders of cryptocurrency, or billionaires in the world are unable to quickly sell off their assets.

[Skelly-rattlegore]

Thank you for clearing this up

[Frass-myzrael]

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Probably photoshop’d. Regardless, Blizzard has said this is false.

[Holypriest-netherwind]

We still very much need an actual forum post about this from Blizzard, simply responding in one of many forums is not going to get this the attention it needs.

[Gullione-blackrock]

Says the guy playing a Blizzard product. Don’t let the door hit ya man. If you’re so worried about Blizzard, just go away. Solves your problem.

[Gullione-blackrock]

Or, most people can understand it and you’re just trying to see what you want to see, which is doom and gloom.

[Startuptim-sulfuras]

@Pazorax-1880

Another popular theory is that you can determine your current layer by doing a /who in a capital city, and comparing the results against the /who your friend does. That doesn’t work because /who returns results from the entire realm, not just from your layer, and if the result set is too large it truncates the results before sorting them. This means every player gets different results, but those differences in result set have nothing to do with which layer you’re on. This has led some people to claim that they’ve discovered dozens of layers per realm, but that claim is completely false .

Player proves you can determine your layer with /who (proof inside)

FINAL EDIT: Despite these issues, we still need to be thankful of Blizzard. See here: Despite layering exploits, we should be thankful of Blizzard EDIT: I would love to be shown that what I am seeing is wrong. I am not here to spread misinformation. My post shows the results of my own testing and the honest interpretation of those results. It does appears to be correct. You can test this all for yourself. Take a look at the data results and tell me what your conclusion is. If I am …

[Jugaa-grobbulus]

People like you are the problem.

Actually, people like you are. I had a feeling all the complaints were way blown out of proportion. Like another poster said, GD type posters like to take one or two examples and blow it up like everyone is doing this.

[Killershama-zuljin]

Only the lens of truth can see through the lies!

[Renthilias-bloodsail-buccaneers]

If you distrust Blizzard that much, why are you trusting them with your money?

[Riev-herod]

Lol, all the ragers got burned.

Quickly, go find something else to complain about or the world will end!

[Kaitsu-mankrik]

What are you doing about the people that exploited layering to level to 60 at record speed?

[Ironpelt-greymane]

Thanks for clarifying these things!

[Numbx-kirtonos]

Do you really think this response is adequate in light of all the blatant abuse of layering?

I personally find this insulting. You can’t possibly believe the community is dumb enough to believe that layering isn’t having a giant affect on game play and economy. I watched Alexensual get two dozen devilaur skins in a hour or less yesterday. I watched a guy speed level to world first 60 using it. I watched streamers hop to get rares and mines.

Coming in here, after all this negative feedback, and saying that it is wildly overblown is a gigantic slap in the face to people who love this game and want it to be fixed.

[Shaien-windseeker]

We’ve seen screenshots of banks full of rare crafting materials, which we’ve investigated and proved false.

The following screenshot for example: https:// imgur . com/a/Z8j3I6E Clearly shows the difference from seeing your local layer characters (using z- command) and then showing the entire layer characters (not using the z- in /who).

Yet we’re supposed to believe these screenshots, because surely these screenshots couldn’t be faked?

[Gullione-blackrock]

Certainly not. The whiners and doom/gloomier EVERYTHING WILL RUIN CLASSIC crowd would have nothing to complain about.

[Frass-myzrael]

Do you really think this response is adequate in light of all the blatant abuse of layering?

I personally find this insulting. You can’t possibly believe the community is dumb enough to believe that layering isn’t having a giant affect on game play and economy. I watched Alexensual get two dozen devilaur skins in a hour or less yesterday. I watched a guy speed level to world first 60 using it. I watched streamers hop to get rares and mines.

Coming in here, after all this negative feedback, and saying that it is wildly overblown is a gigantic slap in the face to people who love this game and want it to be fixed.

Everything you listed is hearsay and anecdotal. Provide hard facts on how layering was exploited as well as hard facts on how it is ruining the game and ruining the economy.

First and foremost, there will ALWAYS be people who rush through content, gather/mine high end resources en masse and be world firsts. This doesn’t affect me one bit because even without layering IT WOULD STILL HAPPEN. These claims are just pointless, irrelevant and overblown.

Why are you watching people do this stuff??? Just play the game yourself!!!

[Sephrinx-blaumeux]

I’ve played horde almost exclusively since 2008 but ok.

[Wrena-incendius]

Layering should be removed. Everyone on the same layer. Vanilla is group based not individual based. This is crap and ruins the experience

[Numbx-kirtonos]

Everything you listed is hearsay and anecdotal.

I mean I suppose I could close my eyes, put my hands over my ears, and pretend like this system isn’t absolutely abusable. I could pretend like everyone isn’t getting filthy rich and abusing layering to do content faster and easier. I could pretend like it doesn’t destroy world pvp.

I could… But then I’d be like you.