Layer switching is the problem, not layering itself

[Drunkhobo-moon-guard]

So many posts here on how were stuck with the abuse caused by unregulated layer switching because layering needs to exist. These are two separate issues.

Layering itself is fine; the problem is that switching layers is too easy. There needs to be either a longer cooldown or a requirement of being in the same zone/area as the leader to switch layers.

there are 2 Options now to fix the game!

Option 1: REMOVE LAYERING (majority of the community is for this Option)

Option 2: make a 20min time to switch layers, make a menu where u can see all layers with current layer Population so People can Chose on what layer they wanna Play on!

but i can already tell u all,… Nothing of These fixes will happen because Blizzard Need layering to make all These Players quit the game before Phase 2 starts

[Leecher-myzrael]

Why aren’t you locking/deleting any threads that claim

people running around with banks full of (Thorium) Arcane Crystals or Black Lotus.

[Frostifox-kromcrush]

So how exactly do you want them to prove it to you? A literal freaking blizzard employee just told you that. What else do you want, a tour of the guys house who owns that account that posted the picture of the arcane crystals so you can personally log on and check?

[Numbx-kirtonos]

Yea, I also heard the world is going to end in 12 years because hamburgers.

[Terrycrews-fairbanks]

So you believe some random reddit user with access to photoshop over Blizz? lmfao.

[Drunkhobo-moon-guard]

Why aren’t you locking/deleting any threads that claim

because blizzard is telling crap!

[Wrena-incendius]

Layering needs to go

Who cares if their is abuse or not. This ruins the classic experience. This is just as bad as LFD

Don’t ruin it blizzard

[Gullione-blackrock]

I’m not baiting you it’s just the truth. So therefore what you said is invalid if you don’t provide it.

[Cauchy-bloodhoof]

I’d consider layer-swapping an exploit if you’re doing so to:

• Work around spawn times for mobs/resource nodes
• Avoid world PvP

Blizzard put the layer swaps in place so folks could group up and not be instanced out from one another. This makes sense. Unfortunately we have some jackasses trying to take advantage.

[anon46260189]

We’ve been monitoring players’ use of layers, and we agree that we should add a delay between subsequent layer transfers. Under the hood we have all the controls I talked about in the Reddit AMA before launch, a few secret weapons we haven’t discussed publicly, and we’re working on deploying some additional controls to further restrain layering from being exploitable.

However, we also want to assure you that the issue is a much smaller problem than some people are claiming. We’ve been closely monitoring the effect layering is having on economies and other aspects of the game, and many of the stories we see posted are wildly inaccurate. We’ve seen screenshots of banks full of rare crafting materials, which we’ve investigated and proved false.

Another popular theory is that you can determine your current layer by doing a /who in a capital city, and comparing the results against the /who your friend does. That doesn’t work because /who returns results from the entire realm, not just from your layer, and if the result set is too large it truncates the results before sorting them. This means every player gets different results, but those differences in result set have nothing to do with which layer you’re on. This has led some people to claim that they’ve discovered dozens of layers per realm, but that claim is completely false .

All realms have a single-digit number of layers. Most of them have a low single-digit number.

Rest assured that there are not people running around with banks full of (Thorium) Arcane Crystals or Black Lotus.

MIC DROP

[Jugaa-grobbulus]

I’d say the pros of layering far outweigh the cons. You can still group up with friends, yet you’re not lagged out because 1k people in the same area. And now we know the complaints are blown way out of proportion.

[Gullione-blackrock]

The complaints here are always blown way out of proportion lol

[Jugaa-grobbulus]

True. What was I thinking?

[anon46260189]

How about nobody goes back to retail?

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

go back to retail is just trolling. people are paying money to have fun playing the game. retail is fun in its own way. as is classic. this us vs them thing on the forums really just causes bad blood. i’ve played retail since vanilla. this version of classic has existed for a couple of weeks i think. it’s hardly like “retail tourists” are the reason for the layer exploiting, or the queue times, or the dungeon AoE farm groups, or anything else people are complaining about on the forums. i don’t do anything mean to others and mostly just play with my friend questing and we bother no one.

[Numbx-kirtonos]

I’m not baiting you it’s just the truth. So therefore what you said is invalid if you don’t provide it.

[Farside-madoran]

Except me. You can trust me with all of those lovely mats. I promise I will sit happily by myself on that layer. For everyone’s safety that is…

[Jugaa-grobbulus]

And once the hype dies down they will remove the layers. Probably sooner on some realms than others.

[anon46260189]

People who post here actively are usually not very good players. Mostly because they spend so much time reading the forums and reddit.

[Holymirax-ashkandi]

we’re working on deploying some additional controls to further restrain layering from being exploitable.

Why would they be working on something to limit it if it was intended and condoned?

Why would he use the word “exploitable” if what we are discussing is not actually an exploit?

Better question. Why didnt they have controls in place in the first place.
People have only been pointing out the problem since the start