As much as I agree that gear was way too plentiful in BfA, the fact that I’ve only gotten one real upgrade (read: 1 trinket and 1 weapon, + another trinket from GV) from M+ in the 15 or so that I’ve done is super demotivating.
That, and the Great Vault gave me literal garbage. At the very least, it could have given me gear for something I need an upgrade in, but no. Guess I’ll have to fill that hole with PvP.
Can we at least get Justice points back or something, if you’re going to crimp off everyone but the super lucky?
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farm bunch of low level key before goifn in higher key.
farming big key right now event if u get a big vault key wont help you right now but later.
take m+ has a marathon do a bunch of +2 till 90% filled then move to +4 etc…
farming +15 right now feel unrewarding because high risk low reward.
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What? I can’t even get to higher keys because low keys don’t drop any gear.
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he drop but not for you, that why personl loot should be removed.
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Blizzard can never do balance, it’s extreme on both ends of the spectrum, never in between.
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Why say many word when… words
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I’d love to see justice/valor back tbh
I wouldn’t take currency over vault though if it had to be one or the other
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No gear is the new treadmill and im not even mad because this is what the community asked for. When you take away things like warforging and titanforging, this is what you get. I dont think a lot of people took into consideration exactly what no RNG on gear means. This is an MMO and one of Blizzards main goals is to keep you playing as long as possible. You can either do that with randomized gear or lack of gear. Most people chose lack of gear and i think will eventually regret it because overall, its just not as fun.
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Thats because people keep quiting so it’s new issues every expansion lol
I feel more motivated tbh. I’ve been spamming m+ the last 2 weeks and it’s been fine.
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I’m having this trouble myself. I keep trying to get guildmates to do M+, but the common response is “Why bother? I’m not gonna get any loot out of it.”
We HAD a good system in place, but once again Blizzard decided to go way too far in one direction. All we needed was some currency, like frost badges or titan residium so that people could still work towards bad luck protection. The vault does NOT compensate for that.
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7 Boss Kills
4 M+'s this week 6-8s
I got a trinket due to the weekly quest and a 200 cloak as a pity item as a /roll in raid.
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If your ilvl is that low you haven’t done anywhere near 15 keys lmao, more like 3.
Valor Points is basically our 6 PvE great vault slots. But we actually have it better as Valor were always budgeted to Normal (now Heroic) item level. Great vault can go beyond that.
Justice points… I know people liked them, but they wouldn’t help you out here if they were budgeted to Heroic Dungeon level. Even at Mythic Dungeon Level they would only be “ok”.
I feel they really removed Justice because it was such a quick system to graduate from.
The pace of gearing seems fine to me, its a slower for sure but I am okay with that. Still faster than what it was back in BC, Wrath, Cata etc.
Only got to 60 a week ago and already at 194 item level. Participate in all end game activities and you will gear up kick.
There are too many options for gearing and too many difficulties. Mythic+ is the main culprit in this current debacle. I said it and I’ll say it again. Normal and Heroic. New Normal=Current Heroic, New Heroic=Current Mythic. That’s all this game needs for dungeon and raid. Mythic+ is a cool concept, that ultimately turns the game into an even more grindy metrics padding fiesta. Challenge mode for cosmetic was good. Mythic+ as a way of living is not.
Also bring back 1 drop per bosses in any difficulty for Mythic+. So at the end of the dungeon: 3-5 pieces.
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The pace at which gear plateaus is the problem. 194 is just mix of mythic and normal raid…
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We need justice points/ badges back. It so much more satisfying to get something you can work towards rather than solely rely on RNG.
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I would vote for skipping this patch until Blizzard cuts the time played metrics. That also means that they stop being stingy with the loot.
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