Kwint (not so bad down here) all aquatics


(Ccloudstlkr) #1

Wow this is a hard one.

Anyone got any good tips?


(Taleranor) #2

Yeah. Go fight any other trainer.
Seriously though, Kwint and his sharks are just awful no matter what family you’re trying to fight him with. :frowning:


(Symbioserous) #3

What Taleranor says, or find some dumb luck potions lol. They are all hard, especially the elemental. :smiley:

Oh a couple of general tips though;

  • bubble for aquatics is strong
  • spawn of gnathus will obliterate the first opponent, shield, paralyzing shock, swallow you whole
  • trying to heal through damage is generally a waste of time unless its a huge heal, maybe

(Loncis) #4

I was just thinking as I fought Kwint, it would be nice if there were some Undead pets with Mechanical attacks. Unfortunately, since mechanical pets are never truly alive, they cannot become undead.

Perhaps the Devs could create a Cyborg pet that died and was raised as Undead. Hence an Undead pet would have Mechanical attacks.


(Vyskera) #5

Since you don’t need to fight any particular trainer and you’re not time-gated by WQs like in Legion, bashing your head against the wall for certain trainers isn’t worth your time.

Aquatics also tend to be one of the worst for any fight since they have so few different moves available. In this particular fight, there aren’t any Aquatics with non-cooldown Mechanical attacks and the only Aquatics with Flying attacks are the otherwise unremarkable Penguins.

The closest I got on this one was to open with Inky (Dive, Tentacle Slap, Blind, Tentacle Slap until low health then Dive), Mongoose S/S (Gnaw, Dive as needed, make sure to Screech on last attack) and then any decent speed pet can finish off Bruce. I think another Inky could win the fight, but I don’t have another one - and there’s a lot of guesswork/luck involved.


(Symbioserous) #6

Agree, its not worth bashing ones head against the wall for most. I expect the majority of players will skip him.

Aquatics did get a lot of love and attention this xpac though.
Boghopper: superfast 349 speed a damage shield & creeping ozze
Hermit Crab: superfast 349 with a bubble
Inland Croaker: elemental attacks and blizzard weather
Coastal Scuttler & Elusive Skimmer: both got stampede and Skimmer got blizzard weather

I remember doing a Legion achievement and didnt have one particular frog. So most of my aquatic teams where rng, it was harsh lol. This time around options were way better.


(Hodor) #7

Take special note that you only need to do 15/19 for the BFA class specific achievements, so you can skip four. For Aquatics I skipped Kwint, Lozu, Korval, and Talia.

Aquatics, along with Critters I found to be the two hardest for me.

For Critters I skipped Kwint, Lozu, Zujal, and Grady


(Ccloudstlkr) #8

ok thanks for the answres i didnt see that it was only 15 / 19 needed however noth having a checkmark by all of them is going to drive my complionist self nuts.

I seriously bet this one isnt possible with aquatic or undead. If ne1 does beat it please post the how to.


(Loncis) #9

You just gave me another idea.

We have a mechanical axebeak, which is a flying pet with some mechanical attacks, why can’t we have a mechanical shark that is an aquatic pet?

I was thinking about an undead pet with mechanical attacks. That would be harder to create lore around, since mechanical pets aren’t technically alive, they cannot become undead.

But what about a cyborg that died, and was raised as undead? He could have mechanical attacks and undead attacks.


(Hodor) #10

I did do Kwint with all Undead, though I don’t recall exactly what team I did it with. I probably used at least one blighthawk, and a Son of Sethe, though after doing 150 pet battles you forget some of the details.

Edit: just beat him all undead with a Blightbreath, Blighthawk, and Graves.


(Taleranor) #11

The Undead battle with Son of Sethe, Blighthawk, Blightbreath is where I was forced to give up out of frustration. I suspect I didn’t have the right breeds.


(Hodor) #12

For me as undead, I started with Blightbreath and spammed his Toxic Smoke. With the Blighthawk, consume corpse, and Slicing wind. I ended up using Graves for my third pet, but almost any strong neutral pet can work in the third slot, Not sure son of seethe is so strong after all. The big thing with the third pet is RNG of having him use his blood in the water early before he puts his bleed on you.


(Wiff) #14

I’ve found an Aquatic team that will beat Kwint consistently.

Inky (Tentacle Slap/Blinding Poison/Dive)
Hermit Crab (Pinch/Bubble/Dive)
Ghostshell Crab (Spirit Claws/Bubble/Spirit Spikes)

Start with Inky, use Tentacle Slap 3 times, then Blinding Poison which will cause the Megalodon on either turn 4 or 5 to miss. Tentacle Slap, Dive, Chum kills it.

Bring in the Hermit Crab. Use Dive if Chum isn’t low enough to finish with Pinch which will usually be the case. Restart on the rare occasion that Dive doesn’t do the job.

Spam Pinch on Bruce, pass turn on Bash. The Hermit Crab will just barely kill him barring crits or all Deep Bites with no Carpnado in which case pop Bubble to survive. Ideally you’ll want to save Bubble for Maws Jr to get an extra hit in.

Maws Jr is RNG city. Bubble and Dive should allow the Hermit Crab at least two turns of damage before being eaten, ideally not by Ravage.

Pop the Ghostshell Crab’s Spirit Spikes, attack Maws Jr with Spirit Claws. Pop Bubble if Blood in the Water is off of cooldown. This should allow you to use Spirit Spikes again and finish him off.

You can substitute the Ghostshell Crab for anything that can beat Maws Jr one on one, although I haven’t found anything that doesn’t depend on Rain Dance crits and Blood in the Water misses. A second Hermit Crab might work.


(Loncis) #15

Oh, my God. This really worked well. I even missed with Spirit Claws twice. And for some reason, Spirit Spikes missed. But Bubble gave me the two extra shots I needed (one he had a bleed on me) to finish him off.

Thanks very much. You’re amazing!

Borrowing your theme, I just came up with a strat for Undead that seems to work every time I’ve tested it.

It turns out, there is one Undead pet that also has Blinding Poison.

Spectral Spinner: Bone Bite, Blinding Poison, Spectral Strike
Blighthawk: Slicing Wind, Consume Corpse, Lift-Off
Fragment of Anger: Spiritfire Bolt, Enrage, Soulrush

Bonebite x 3, Blinding Poison, Spectral Strike, Bonebite (The last Bonebite may happen during the Immortal Round.) If he’s still able, Bite, Blind and Spectral Strike Bruce
Blighthawk Use Slicing Wind, and if Bruce uses Bash, just Pass and Consume Corpse. Lift-Off if the next attack kills you.
I still had plenty of time to work on Maws Jr. with Blighthawk, thanks to Consume Corpse.
So, when I brought in Fragment of Anger, it was Enrage, Soulrush and Spiritfire Bolt. Done.


(Wiff) #16

Thanks! The Ghostshell has just the right mix of defense and offense to get the job done for sure, all the while being several points faster.

I refuse to admit that there’s a trainer out there I can’t beat with all of one family without reliance on some major RNG.


(Wiff) #17

Nice work! I did have some RNG issues using the Fragment of Anger and switched to a Cursed Birman instead for Spirit Spikes, Prowl, and Pounce, but it’s solid.

Preventing the teamwide Megalodon is definitely the meal ticket. The sharks hit hard enough without a 1k+ AoE!


(Loncis) #18

I’ll revise with a Cursed Birman, then. I don’t have this pet, but for those who are having trouble with the Elemental aspect of this quest, Nightshade Sproutling is the only Elemental Pet with Blinding Poison.

Addendum: For some reason, I’m not having good luck with Cursed Birman. He gets the job done, even if it’s during the Immortal Round, which means he still wins. But for some reason, Spirit Spikes aren’t doing so well.

Another Addendum: Cursed Birman is also very effective against Chum. I’ve used him three times now. Using Spirit Spikes, Prowl and Pounce x2 and he will kill Chum before he even gets the chance to use Megalodon.


(Wiff) #19

Did not even think about using it to smash Chum, and I’m always eager to devastate slower pets with Prowl buffed spikes.


#20

For undead I like the spectral spider. Then the toxic fat dude (sorry cant think of the right name) and lastly blighthawk


(Wiff) #21

I actually haven’t found the Nightshade Sproutling all that helpful for this fight because Bruce is an even bigger problem for elementals than Chum. I’ve found it better to use the Amalgam of Destruction to stun and backline the dotted Chum with Elementium Bolt. Bruce swaps right into Immolate and Volcano rendering himself half dead before he’s even begun to ramp up.

The only problem is that backlining Chum causes him to immediately cast Megalodon later, so you’d need to manage him with crowd control throughout. Because you’d also need good damage to burst down Bruce quickly before the ramp up becomes ridiculous, the Nightshade Sproutling couldn’t be active when Chum comes back in.

I’ve had the best results using Amalgam of Destruction, Zephyrian Prince, and H/S Tiny Twister. Prince finishes Bruce quickly with flying damage, keeps Chum swapped out, and hits Maws Jr with Call Lightning. Twister stuns Maws Jr bringing Chum in for the kill. Then just hit Maws Jr with a buffed Call Lightning and pray that the Twister doesn’t get one shotted by Blood in the Water before the killing blow.