KSM upgrades aren't account wide?

This idea that you can’t get KSM unless you have KSM is a big fat meme. Many of us timed 16s last week and will be picking up KSM in the next few days when we can play keys. I have a ton of gear I still need to upgrade.


All this said, being able to upgrade gear on alts was cute, but I don’t think Blizzard wants to short-circuit the entire gearing process of alts with KSM. Valor is way easier to get now, and 3 months from now when the cap on Valor is very high, I doubt they want you to jump straight up to 240 ilvl in a single marathon play session.

If this is true, this is definitely a bug. It’s a feat of strength which is account wide. Or at least it was until 9.0

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The upgrades don’t work off of the achievement. They work off rating, and the error message you receive is based on rating.

well people were complaining non stop about carries, so it makes sense

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo if this true

This is… really dumb.

Add that to the list of undocumented changes blizz do that makes you go… “but why”?

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Yes this is definitely a bug because I don’t recall Blizzard stating in any announcement that KSM will no longer be account wide.

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Then what’s the point? My main is getting gear from the dungeons/great vault; it’s my alts who need the upgrades.

More one step forward/two steps back design from Blizzard.

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They need to look into this and fix it. There is no point punishing alts after you earn what was a feat of strength in previous patches.

Letting alts gear up isn’t going to destroy their time taken as they need valor.

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I think they changed it to be more like PvP ranking/upgrades, which are per character.

Not saying I agree with it, but that’s probably the mentality. It seems like another change to try to drive playtime higher (just like making everyone complete level 15s on both tyrannical and fortified weeks).

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If this is true it’s another pretty shameless method to drag out 9.1. How many people have the time to run so many +15s on each toon just to get access to a catch up mechanic that they probably won’t even need at that point.

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Other players have mentioned it’s not working as account wide. Idk if it’s intended or what.

Edit: file a bug report and see what happens. Then come back and tell us

Except it is no longer based off the achievement. The degree you can upgrade to is now based upon that characters Blizzard mythic+ score. The upside, it is no longer just 3 tiers instead there are like 6.

So where’s the announcement then?

Blizzard has not announced a major significant change that Keystone Master will now be required on each character for upgrades.

Until they do that, it’s 100% a bug and unintended change.

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Someone already posted the information from the wowhead right up on the mythic+ changes in 9.1. Or just go to google and search “wow 9.1 mythic+ upgrade requirements” It was changed during the beta for 9.1 so they could add in 6 different levels of possible upgrades over the 3 we had in 9.05.

I hate to say I told you so… JK I LOVE IT!

The only meaningful upgrades from M+ is the vault and valor is especially pointless now…

Nah they did it so more people buy more token

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While I’m fine either way for account wide, I don’t think valor is it was ever a catchup mechanic.

It is to allow some weekly progression outside of the great vault, but also not fully uncapped like end of dungeon gear.

The progression is more about doing higher keys.

But also kinda lame.

Where’s the confirmation that Blizzard intended for this to be the case? Has Blizzard said they want everyone to do it individually?

This is not your “Horse mounts have their colour changed” patch notes. This is a major change and Blizzard should confirm if this is their intention.

If it’s not. They should fix it.

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And what, you thought wowhead (remember the site they almost always send you to if you have a question) and icy-veins just made it up? Or the fact that it was that way during the beta was just Blizzard playing a trick on us? Look we can all agree that Blizzard does a piss poor job producing their own patch notes and I am betting behind the scenes they work with wowhead to create their very detailed patch note guides.

Either way, it is pointless to argue this with you. You could be standing in the rain and argue that it’s not raining because you haven’t seen a weather report for rain.