Kill off thrall

You could swat a butterfly in the dudes presence and he would start to work against you and plan your downfall.

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Only if swatting that butterfly might hurt someone on the Alliance.

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If you kill him, heā€™ll come back 3 days later.

He is Green Jesus after all.

There is a tiny bit of irony in your post considering your entire race was easily tricked by a demon titan and went on a galaxy wide genocide spree.

The Draenei?

right cuz making a ship fly and shoot arcane blast is on par with the dragon aspect of death empowered by the old gods that thrall 1 shotted.

jaina was also trained by antonidas 1 of the most powerfel mages. who was thrall trained by again?

so jainaā€™s OP because her mana doesnt get used up?

anduwin, i seem to remember from the cenematic that saurfang knocked him down hard, he rezzed like 10 people.

alleria uh ok opened up void portals and defeated who?

malfurion who gets captured every other expac, or when the horde starts invading hes no where to be found. gets revenge for darkshore by killing exactly 4 horde escorting supplies. i can wrap an iron wire around someones throat and pull it tight to wear they cant make a sound but it doesnt seem to 1 shot them. whats your point?

ok tyrande went from priest to warrior and did what?

velen did what in all of legion?

Categorically incorrect. I am here. I never served the legion. Neither did any of the Draenei. The Eredar, on the other hand. Yes, they did.

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do you know what a mary sue is? yeah, thrallā€™s op and was chosen by the elements or some crap to replace an ancient dragon aspect but heā€™s far from flawless.

just look at the sorry state heā€™s been allowing the horde to achieve. seriously, if the stormwind royalty can run a faction, a city, and look after a family all at once, so can thrall. he has no excuse.

Drekā€™thar
The Elements themselves.

Yeah, you can tell that heā€™s a Mary Sue because he has no faults.

Other that being TOO noble and caring for the horde TOO MUCH.

Itā€™s almost like Thrall and the Dragon aspects empowered a weapon to use against Deathwing, just that Thrall was the one to pull the trigger.

What is the difference?

sounds like a very mary sue thing to me. i dont no teacher i was trained by the elements themselves.

no where does it say drekā€™thar trained thrall to fight or how to be a shaman. it only says he was ā€œtaught the old ways of the horde>ā€

Draenei are a subset. The difference is self evident. Either figure it out, or donā€™t.

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Thrall

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Drek%27Thar

Compared to Anduinā€™s trainingā€¦where he did whatā€¦take a summer camp at the Cathedral?

uh no there was more to it than that. the dragon aspects said it was too powerful for them to use, but good old thrall who is somehow more powerful than the dragon aspects, uses his mary sue powers was able to use it with no problem at all.

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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Thrall

As the Soul was imbued with a powerful enchantment to prevent dragonkind from ever using it, the Aspects called on Thrall to be the wielder of the Dragon Soul in the battle against Deathwing.

So. No. The Amulet was not stated as being too powerful for them to use. It was literally enchanted, imbued, whatever to specifically prevent dragonkind from using it.

I do enjoy reading a wordsmith.

Actually no, a quick google search finds me that Draenei are Eredar. Thatā€™s there species name. The name Dranei is used after Velen and the other Eredar fled Argus after the others were corrupted. So yes, youā€™re race did take part in genocide.

"The draenei (pronounced as DRAN-eye , DRAHN-eye , or DRAYN-eye) are a faction of uncorrupted [Eredar] who fled their home world of [Argus] "

Does anyone using the term ā€œMary Sueā€ know what it actually means? It is (almost always) a female character (hence the names, for Thrall is should probably be a male name) put into a story that usually is flawless, perfect and can do no wrong.

In Thrall/Goā€™elā€™s case, one could say he has done a lot of wrong, so Iā€™m not even sure how the term applies. First he picked Garrosh to lead the Horde (a less likely and reasonable choice considering how often he reprimanded Garrosh I canā€™t imagine), then he let him get out of control and practically destroy the Horde in the process, and finally (according to many) he effectively cheated in a challenge fight to eventually defeat him (after us players had done all the work). Not to mention suffering all kinds of self-doubt along the way and finally shooting through right when the Horde and Azeroth needed him the most.

This does no qualify under any description I know of for perfect, flawless and able to do no wrong.

In fact, if anything Thrall is rather like the Horde version of Anduin. Thrall was a Shaman, whose power came through the elements. Anduin is Priest, whose power comes through the Light. Both characters struggled with their place in the world and their responsibilities. Both sought peace but are prepared to fight to defend their people.

I think that Thrall is one of the most layered and interesting of all the Orc characters in the game and the one that is most likely to be able to empower the Horde once more with its honour, and the one most likely to be able to repair the rifts caused by Sylvanas. He has problems and issues and isnā€™t without his own doubts.

The image recently revealed of him actually gives me a lot of hope - he isnā€™t dressed as a shaman but more as a Frostwolf common fighter and he has certainly buffed up a lot over the last look we saw in WoD. If he is being reintroduced to the game, Iā€™m personally fairly excited about it.

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