Kill off thrall

[Akston-bloodhoof (Akston)]

But he has made mistakes, he let Sylvanas lure him into a trap. Had it not been for Jaina, he’d be dead. He was the one who convinced the Panderan to open their shrines up to us which allowed Garrosh to get the piece of the heart of the old god and use it to destroy the vale. (He then was foolish enough to get too close to Garrosh who almost crushed him to death)

He has done wrong, on many occasions.

I am just saying Anduin is the nearest thing to a Mary Sue the game has.

At 18, already one of the most powerful priests, with basically no experience/training. If not the most powerful already. Somehow the leader of people hundreds of times older than him. Unable to do something morally wrong.

[Tarquinius-dalaran (Tarquinius)]

Then here is a guy passionate about the game. And we are like. WE DONT WANT PEOPLE THAT PASSIONATE ABOUT THE GAME.

I mean, I don’t think people are saying that, that they want Danuser out of a job, people are laughing at the Tweets because they exemplify how insanely cringey the Sylvanas worship can get.

Though if anyone is calling him out of a job, yikes…

[Akston-bloodhoof (Akston)]

I mean, I don’t think people are saying that, that they want Danuser out of a job, people are laughing at the Tweets because they exemplify how insanely cringey the Sylvanas worship can get.

Though if anyone is calling him out of a job, yikes…

I just think everyone took his tweets way too seriously.

If they were said about any other character, no one would have batted an eye. But because it was Sylvanas, we all go crazy.

[Rhielle-sentinels (Rhielle)]

mary sue character

Let’s all learn to use this term correctly, mkay? Because at least three people so far haven’t got a clue what it actually means, since it’s being thrown around willy nilly and all wrong.

[Hazzulu-wyrmrest-accord (Hazzulu)]

Varian’s mirror has always been Garrosh.

[Tarquinius-dalaran (Tarquinius)]

If they were said about any other character, no one would have batted an eye. But because it was Sylvanas, we all go crazy.

I mean… No.

Isn’t Green Jesus a meme too because Thrall is Metzen’s lovechild? It’s not that everybody hates Sylvanas I mean she is a pretty dumb character, but people meme’d on them because they were insane. Like the dude literally wanted to be with Sylvanas lmao.

[Mathrenas-moon-guard (Mathrenas)]

Alexa. How do I delete someone elses message?

[Natürallight-deathwing]

Killing civilians and raising them as Forsaken in Silverpine was okay

I made clear I don’t like it when leaders kill civilians. I’m saying Alliance act like their faction and the people in it are always right.

Destroying Southshore is somehow okay

No civilians that didn’t opt to stay there were killed iirc.

And ofc destroying an alliance settlement is okay so long as there isn’t willful killing of civilians.

It’s war.

It’s why I don’t whine because the alliance destroyed Taurajo, again, another instance of alliance wiping out civilians indiscriminately.

Attempting genocide on the Night Elves is also somehow okay too.

I specifically cited that as the reason, well the main one, that I don’t like Sylvanas. There’s not any other horde character that agreed with the decision, not even Nathanos, whom we saw hesitate to follow orders for the first and only time.

Sylvanas is trash and needs to be rid of.

Dropping a literal nuke on Theramore was totally fine as well.

All civilians were evacuated prior to this occuring.

Military target, with no civilian losses, sounds like war to me.

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Being the first to weaponize Azerite was totally okay too right?
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Yes, why wouldn’t they?

And how about in Stonetalon killing that sect of druids that was totally okay too.

No, I think every player loved watching Garrosh throw him off a cliff for killing of the druids, which were peaceful and neutral. I think Garrosh described it as disgusting, which I agree with.

And that Orc was a previously unknown general put there for questing purposes, he’s hardly representative of horde leadership.

[Tharadrim-sargeras]

right he lost to a sha empowered garrosh, but used his mary sue plot armor to kill garrosh.

[Akston-bloodhoof (Akston)]

right he lost to a sha empowered garrosh, but used his mary sue plot armor to kill garrosh

What is your definition of “mary sue”?

[Saadet-quelthalas (Saadet)]

Wow, you are a bad dwarf and this makes me sad, Goblexa, play Orcpacito.

[Castalol-moon-guard (Castalol)]

An alliance is complaining about a Horde Mary Sue character…When the Alliance has like seven of them. Seems legit.

Though to be more accurate, they may not be Mary Sue in nature, they sure as hell are OP in the power department. While the Horde has…none.

[Tharadrim-sargeras]

someone who can over come something far above their abilities with little or no explaination. being able to do anything or everything with no difficulty.

for example the dragon aspects that where made by the titians to watch over azeroth combine their power into the dragon soul. they turn to thrall and say “its too powerful for us to use only you can save us!” points it at death wing and blasts him out of the sky.

thrall fights orgrim doomhammer the war chief of the horde and over powers his strength and claims doomhammer. just cuz.

becomes the most powerful shaman ever and can single handedly heal the maelstrom. with no training or explaination as to how.

he basically beats everything and everyone he comes across, loses to no one and seem to be the only one that can beat the end of the expac boss.

i could write you a book of all the things thrall has done just because his name is thrall. i mean mary sue.

[Braindëadly-stormrage]

I just wanna know this … . how many times Thrall is gonna do the same thing ? .

Help the horde , put a dumb warchief then dissapear . Is doing like 3 times this . . … i want him dead because of his mind games . … only for that.

[Tharadrim-sargeras]

name 1 and why they are a mary sue.

[Castalol-moon-guard (Castalol)]

Jaina: Shows up out of no where during Lordaron on a FLYING SHIP. Then there’s her whole boss encounter in Dazar’Alor where she’s just making a ship fly, freeze a good chunk of the ocean, is shooting spells out of her butt and nose and is able to fend off some of the Horde’s most powerful melee and magic user and just gets a bruised wrist as a result.

And you forget, I admit they’re not Mary sue in nature most of them, but many of them have godlike power, as compared to the Horde, the closet we would have would be Sylvanas and Thrall.

Cause lets see, the Alliance has:
Jaina. The concept of Mana does not exist to me.
Anduin (Rezes an entire army, because he just seemingly can?)
Xe’ra’s golden boy what’s his face.
Alleria. I can open random void portals anywhere I please.
Malfurion. I can take a giant bloody axe to the spine, survive and not even be crippled.
Tyrande. Night Warrior edition.
Velen.

[Akston-bloodhoof (Akston)]

someone who can over come something far above their abilities with little or no explaination. being able to do anything or everything with no difficulty.

for example the dragon aspects that where made by the titians to watch over azeroth combine their power into the dragon soul. they turn to thrall and say “its too powerful for us to use only you can save us!” points it at death wing and blasts him out of the sky.

thrall fights orgrim doomhammer the war chief of the horde and over powers his strength and claims doomhammer. just cuz.

becomes the most powerful shaman ever and can single handedly heal the maelstrom. with no training or explaination as to how.

he basically beats everything and everyone he comes across, loses to no one and seem to be the only one that can beat the end of the expac boss.

i could write you a book of all the things thrall has done just because his name is thrall. i mean mary sue.

Thrall has been shown over and over to be extremely powerful.

See, look at Anduin. Anduin is 18. Has had almost no training or experience. Yet he pulls of amazing feats. That is a Mary Sue.

Someone that has been leading and progressing their powers for 20 years is a lot different.

By your definition, every single leader in WoW is a Mary Sue.

Velen? Mary Sue.
Khadgar? Mary Sue.
Jaina? Mary Sue.

Why do you think Thrall has no training as a shaman? He’s been training for almost his entire life.

[Czajen-moonrunner]

he can’t be awesome again.

He was never awesome to start. It’s an orc. orcs are vile, boorish, filthy things that exist only to perpetrate violence. The only marginally respectable hordie is Baine.

[Akston-bloodhoof (Akston)]

The only marginally respectable hordie is Baine.

Calling Baine a Hordie is silly at this point.

But figures, that once again, Baine’s loudest supports are often the people he works for. The Alliance.

[Czajen-moonrunner]

But figures, that once again, Baine’s loudest supports are often the people he works for. The Alliance.

I chortled.