Just pull the plug from your computer for about an hour, they would have kicked you out by then and you can say you had computer issues.
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You sit on a throne of lies.
In a weird way this all reminds me of the IRS.
IRS: You owe us taxes
Tax Payer: Do you know how much?
IRS: Yes.
Tax Payer: So how much is it?
IRS: Figure it out yourself.
Tax Payer: You can’t just tell me how much I owe?
IRS: No, and if you get it wrong we will throw you in jail.
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Here is to hoping that bad players start getting suspensions. If you can’t do 1.5M DPS overall and get at least 15 interrupts per key you shouldn’t be in a +10 and you are trolling / causing a negative experience for the people who are carrying you and you should be punished for it.
Of course we shouldn’t tell people what the bench marks for key levels are we should instead let them find out on their own after all we don’t want them to skirt as close to our rules without breaking them as possible.
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If anyone would tell me “I will report if you if you dont do X”
that is immediately leave for me with no further communication,
nobody will hold me hostage in a video game.
If I lose this account with bought bruto, thats worse for blizzard, I wont resub or buy the game ever again.
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If you want to leave and have a valid reason for doing so, take screenshots of any convos just in case and leave. That way you have some form of evidence as to why you left just in case something would happen.
Better to be safe than sorry.
A ban is a permanent loss of account.
A suspension is a temporary loss of account.
Why do people call suspensions bans these days. It drives me nuts.
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i don’t leave frequently. but I will tell you when I am mostly likely to leave: before the key is inserted.
I am only running 5/6 at the moment. but this is the very messy end of the pugworld.
i always greet the group. if the leader isn’t saying anything back or anything at all, that is a red flag.
if people are just running into the instance with no summoning, that is a red flag. sure some are super easy to get to, but still. this is a game of cooperation.
if someone in the key is very undergeared, especially the healer, that is a red flag.
if there is any amount of arguing during traveling to the instance, that is the biggest red flag. “don’t worry it’s only…”
if I ask the group a question about mechanics (i.e. necrotic wake: can someone get the orb for the caster pack before the bridge?) and I get zero answers or the answer is “just go”, big red flag.
put a couple of these together and I am not even going to enter the instance, or I will dip before the key even goes in.
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I can think of three reasons in this case.
- The wowhead article called it a ban.
- Multiple suspensions get increased in duration per the ToS and eventually lead to a ban.
- Most people don’t distinguish between the two and the word ban is faster to type with less risk of misspelling.
But thats all just speculation on my part as I can’t read minds.
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Yeah curious because iirc, in the blue post they said they were issuing suspensions, and whenever like yt people talk about bans
People just use it interchangeably
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And i know the difference but thanks for the knowledge xD
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Sorry if I came off rude. Just a pet peeve of mine lol.
TBH, unless you’re the first to leave in 75% of the keys you run, I wouldn’t worry… I will never let some loser on the Internet waste my time.
And if that makes Blizzard decide they want to keep the trolls instead of me, maybe that’s the universe saying it’s finally time to stop playing this game.
It’s definitely an automated system. Blizz/Microsoft do not pay people to check reports like games used to. When game companies realized it was cheaper to make us police ourselves those jobs ceased to exist.
Its odd many of what you consider red flags either don’t matter to me or I see it as the reverse. Oh and before I list them I just want to say its not intended to be an argument or you are wrong type of post but just a conversation on how its odd the way different people approach these things and view them.
I just assume here that the leader is engaged with filtering through the huge list of DPS to find one that meets his/her requirements such as lust, brez, dispel type, io score etc.
Alternatively they might have their chat on the side and be playing on an ultra-wide like myself and just never pay attention to it.
If people don’t have or are unwilling to use their portal I get worried. But even before most people had portals I see people as not taking the time to run to the dungeon as a sign that they expect other people to do the work and will likely not be good for interrupts, dispels etc.
This depends on the type of argument. If it seems genuine, then yeah, I’m out. But when I run with friends, do multiple runs with people from earlier dungeons in the day, or even spend time with someone over the season, we’ll often play-fight to build camaraderie.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this outside of myself in NW when I started doing a nonstandard first pull with lust that was 6 groups and I wanted to LOS the casters so I pinged the spot for people to stand.
Honestly though I’m not even sure I would notice if people would ask something depending on if I stream, if I’m in guild discord or even if its a lively day in guild chat.
My own red flags are usually ilvl, IO and comp related. If we don’t have lust or brez thats an issue. If we don’t have a decurse and preferably 2 in GB I’m probably going to drop. If its three melee dps a pally healer and a tank in AK I’m going to drop as the last boss is just going to be an issue. Things to that effect.
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On Reddit they call these rage bait posts. They use made up scenarios to try to create a situation where the poster is always the good guy trying to show the system is rigged. In this case, “the new mythic leaving bans are bad.” Which on face, sure, maybe they can be exploited. Yet, this post is concerned about leaving an attempt when it is clear there is no hope for progress, but that isn’t what the bans were for – they are for repeat offenders. People who are being reported for leaving multiple different mythic instances. So, can we please stop with the hypotheticals and rage baits?
I try to take in the group comp items you note, but not to same degree of dungeon specificity before I ask to join a group.
but the other items I noted are, to me, some measure of whether or not this group is going to work together.
the “interesting” part of this kind of content is that there is no way to guarantee the success of a run. even good players can have off runs and sometimes a particular group just doesn’t click.
or sometimes, like I did in the first +7 city of threads i tried to tank, I got a too concerned about the timer and made some bad pull decisions before the group had even settled in.
sometimes you are the windshield, sometimes the bug.
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haha, I would have left the second they pulled trash 
I certainly don’t have 40 mins to give to anyone who starts our interactions acting like a clown and looking for a carry.
You did the right thing coming into forums imo.
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This figure is more than a little low. You should be doing way more than that by the time you hit +10.
Some classes have a longer interrupt CD than others, but this is generally on the low side.