Someone in another thread said the same and i dont understand you guys.
Even if someone leaves on his own, there might be a valid reason to do it, like having to go afk for something unexpected and he doesnt want the group to wait 5-10 minutes (some people have jobs where clients / coworkers or the boss might call you in your sparetime, neighbours who want to ask you something, maybe even a girlfriend made out of flesh and blood, not the inflatable ones … whatever).
Why should people leaving for a good reason get longer penalties than say a ninjalooter or griefer who got kicked?
Especially with the dungeonfinder, where dps get replaced within seconds, maybe a minute or two if its a tank or healer?
I also think this topic gets blown out of propotion.
Does it happen? Sure, no doubt, it is the WoW community after all.
But i cant’t believe it happens that often, after doing a metric ton of dungeons (all but one faction at exalted, every JP item and heirloom i wanted) - in all this time i have seen 3 attempts to kick people:
1 successfull, a shadowpriest rolling need on plate and melee weapons (and even he only got booted when he did it a second time)
2 where people voted no, due to stupid reasons for the kick
Seems to me that you gotta be pretty unlucky to have it happen to you.
And maybe those who experience it repeatedly get kicked for a reason, not just griefing teammembers?
Thinking through all this now, I see your point. Honestly I can’t even remember the real reason they created the debuff timer. Maybe to keep people from rage quitting, or people leaving after a boss did not drop an item they wanted? And yes they are replaced rather quickly.
What I do believe was it was intended to curb bad behavior, but it seems to punish more than it helps.
On my tank, since I still have Wrath trinkets and had a couple of lvl 85 ‘of the rockslab’ greens, I got kicked four times, without a warning and even after clearing some of the dungeon. I even ask at the start for people to check my gear and I’d leave if its a problem, but they say nothing then kick me at some point
Still, completed more raids than gotten kicked out of, and even with HEROIC being clearly visible on my necklace and weapon, smartasses still whine at me saying that I ‘gamed the ilvl to get in’ (didnt) and that I couldnt possibly clear the dungeon I quite clearly clared before and thus got loot from.
I’m pretty sure he is referring to how other players will vote to kick one player for no reason whatsoever, just to be an A–. I’m also sure that blizzard never intended the kick system to be used for that. It IS toxic, it IS exploiting the system for an unintended purpose. You can complain about his use of the word “exploiting” all you want, but that is exactly what it is. If it makes you feel better, think of the word as “abuse”. It’s a valid complaint and a valid use of the word “exploit”. 30 min ‘punishments’ for being being randomly teamed with senseless, toxic A–holes that auto-click yes to vote kicks is ridiculous. 5 min, MAYBE. Needs to change.
They created the debuff because healers and tanks were using to to make money. Form a group, pay them 50g each, they queue up, get quick queue and they leave. Then they rinse and repeat over and over.
