Keep getting kicked in gamma dungeons

Why do I care about your name or logs? I’m not trying to find something unrelated to the discussion to try to have a “gotcha”

Not everyone on the Internet is looking for some low-brow dunk because they can’t articulate a point without some fallacy-based dig

Blizz hands the keys over to players because they can’t police everything in real time. You agreed to that dynamic as well.

Did I say that you did? Also you were the person that brought up “actually playing the game” 700 posts earlier when you accused me of being a forum lurker for my post count. Don’t high road me you little liar.

Just because you want to weasel away from this doesn’t mean anything. It’s entirely relevant because you made it so.

And Blizz can just as easily make changes to those rules, such as restricting players who abuse the vote to kick option, or forcing a mandatory time limit on vote kicks before 3 minutes, or removing the leaver penalty from the person who gets kicked.

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Nothing to weasel away from. People are either playing the game, getting groups, and getting gear or crying on the forums that playing online games means interacting with people who want to speed run content and will kick people who are likely to hold them back

Good luck with that LOL

Did you forget their rules on rdf vote to kick system already?

The group can kick for ANY reason. It has veen linked to you multiple times.

This kind of behavior should arguably be against the social contract. Remember that thing you signed when you booted up the game? Also I doubt you’re speed running anything. You probably do it with a group and then come here to troll the forums.

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Dungeons were my end game in OG Wrath. The difference back then was heroics were super easy, so no one cared about GS. That was only a factor if you wanted to join a pug raid.

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Luckily you aren’t the arbiter of WoW. The game works perfectly fine the way it is and listening to complainers and people who want to force “teamwork” or “equality” or whatever would make it worse.

Yeah, like the social contract.

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And you’re not the arbiter of anything either. So get over it. I have my right to make my case here. Hopefully the mods will sort you out for you’re behavior here in these forums.

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Why in Elune’s name are you queuing RDF if you want to speed run content?! Go form your own group of pumpers and have at it.

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Even this isnt true.

Gs did matter back then as well as rdf back then had ilvl checks as well. And people cheesed gearscore with pvp gear back then as well.

Keep in mind only one of us is calling for new rules/new systems/etc.

(it’s not me)

Because you don’t want me using a system within the bounds of its rules and tools? Doesn’t really make sense

Things every exploiter has said ever.

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Abusing vote to kick is a violation of the social contract.

Nothing’s being abused, you just don’t like the outcome

See that’s too much effort.

They want everyone else to put the effort to grind comically slow emblems by doing normal heroics or alphas/beta(nobody does these lmao) but they don’t want the effort of getting their guild to dungeon with them, or get 4 other pumpers.

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No, it’s just unnecessary to change your behavior because a complainer on the forums doesn’t like what you’re doing. Doesn’t inconvenience me at all to run a dungeon and kick people the group doesn’t want to run with