They did settle the land first. The Trolls hadn’t even built an Empire before the Vykrul had become fleshy and had even had a war.
Law of the Jungle
Right of Conquest
The Strong Prey on the Weak
That’s Real funny you know. And here I thought the Alliance races were the ones high on Lawful Good Overdrive.
And they call Trolls savages. Primitives. LOL
And the Trolls refuse to live peacefully next to neighbors that kicked them out of their nice houses and left them with half a household and the rickety shack a block down. Recall the Trolls were NOT the ones to throw the first punch, nor is there any indication of them protesting other races exist near to them in ANY source.
When Mechazod reversed the Curse on a bunch of Gnomes in Borean Tundra, they immediately began to act like Robots. The Titanforged/Earthen were hardly mortals like the Trolls have always been.
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I just fundamentally call bull bull on this. There’s no evidence that the Trolls can’t live peacefully with others. The only evidence, conveniently, comes from the people who violently and brutally colonized Troll land. Now they claim “well they just wouldn’t have got a long peacefully with us!”, typical colonizer stuff.
People who believe in right of conquest and preying on the weak have no right to be calling others savage. Why should the Trolls coming crawling and begging peacefully at the feet of the people who have been butchering and stealing their land for centuries?
I think yeah, there should be a peaceful solution to the conflicts… but it’s hard to find that solution when dealing with people who have stolen everything from you.
This. All of this.
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Trolls are displaced, killed, and conquered to the point of near extinction for centuries and nobody bats an eye. Burn one tree full of night elves and everyone loses their minds.
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Which will never happen. Humans are humans and the the strong will always conquer the weak. It’s basic human nature.
Colonialism is justified.
no it isn’t.
no it isn’t.
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Yes it is on both counts.
Wrong. That’s hitlerian ideology.
Now get out of my thread because this is about WoW you goofy looking dwarf.
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They are like “this close” to saying the Holocaust was justified next. Of course they won’t publicly state such a thing because it would get them suspended. They’ll just go the PC route and say “colonialism is justified” instead.
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No thats a realistic ideology and the reason that many culture and peoples are part of the modern world.
Yes bringing people civilization and leaving behind first world infrastructure and technology is the same as the holocaust.
Nope it’s the ideology Hitler based his entire state apparatus and expansionist plans around. It is horrific to believe such things and you should be ashamed of yourself. Now quit derailing my thread.
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No that of course false and you obviously don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.
Wait why did you leave out orcs and quilboar/centaur?
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Probably because despite coming into conflict with those races, as far as I know none of the Horde actually set up any bases or settlements right on top of their homes.
The Quilboar just don’t like the Horde and the Centaur got caught on the wrong side of Horde blades when they tried to eliminate the Tauren. They can rage at the Horde for this, but they still roam their ancestral lands of Desolace, the Barrens, and ‘parts’ of Thousand Needles(but that’s not our fault) freely.
Hardly as much reason to complain as the Trolls
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Wasn’t Mulgor Centaur land that the Horde and Tauren pushed them out of?
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Tbh, I don’t have sources right on me, but haven’t they been fighting over that land for forever? And even if the Centaur do have a claim on it, the Tauren have been around a HELL of a lot longer than anybody except the Trolls and Nelves.
Last, while I’m not 100% on this, aren’t there still Centaur NPC’s in Mulgore?
I haven’t played with the Tauren in ages but I believe Mulgor was the land both races fought over until Tauren won with Horde help and all the Centaur were pushed into Desolace.
The Tauren were nomadic. The Centaur ‘hunted them for sport’ and the Tauren chose to continually move when they would attack. It was only (in the Barrens) after the Horde arrived that they decided to make a stand and stop the Centaur. Then they chose to settle Mulgore. I don’t see any sources that indicate the Centaur were pushed out of Mulgore.
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Well I didn’t have any choice in how Thrall chose to act when he saved Cairne’s people from extinction, but maybe the Centaur shouldn’t have been trying to exterminate the race from whom a member is the reason they exist? We know they’re more than just savages, despite how they’re treated by the narrative. It’s unfortunate but predictable that they want nothing to with niceties with Horde races if they can help it. Or the Nelf friendly Keepers who consider them too ‘savage’ rolls eyes.
But yeah, they invited some kind of karmic attack by going after the Tauren in that manner. Which the Trolls have never done by the way, to keep the topic close.
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