Just one more voice against WoW Token

I know many people are already posting about this, so I’m just adding my voice. So far, I’ve been “sort of” ok with the changes to WOTLK Classic, since I believe it was aligned with keeping a “Classic spirit” to WoW Classic. For example, I was pretty vocal with my opinion against the implementation of RDF, since in my view RDF was against the “spirit of classic” even, if it was in OG WOTLK.

However, implementing the WoW Token is a huge /spit in the face of the Classic community. I personally do not feel comfortable continuing to support a company that shows so little respect for its player base. I, therefore, unsubbed my account.

I simply hope that this post/unsub action is one of many toward Blizz.

I could give you my gold but don’t have much since I didn’t buy any lol!

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And how does the wow tokens effect you?

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By forcing you to play with people that are paying to win? Basically forcing you to play with cheaters.

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I see this argument a lot, and I think it’s missing the point.

The WoW token is bad for the game in general. It’s not a matter of how much it personally affects someone. A behavior that was considered cheating is now legitimized. That’s never good for a game with a large community.

But if you wanted a direct answer to that question, it definitely affects people who never bought gold and put in the time and dedication to earn what they have. It’s a bigger problem for people who can’t afford the token who do GDKP (the most widely used loot system in the game) because they simply cannot compete with the players who can afford it.

Allowing a real life advantage (wealth) to seep into the game and put people without real life wealth at a disadvantage is an awful, short-sighted thing to do for the game.

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There is no pay 2 win, stop it

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Having gold is no advantage unless you’re doing gdkp.

If you raided in a guild others having gold literally does nothing to your experience.

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Did you read my post?

It’s bad for the game in general. But since you brought up GDKP, let me ask something. The players who do GDKP but can’t afford the token: do you not care about them at all? They play this game. They’re part of the community. Their inability to keep up with the people who can afford the token doesn’t personally affect you, so you just don’t care about them?

You’re completely focused on personal experience, and I think that says a lot about you as a player. You seem to be suggesting that the health of the game in general is inconsequential as long as your personal experience is unaffected.

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You still have yet to say “why” it’s bad for the game other than you think its cheating somehow.

If this is your definition of cheating than every MMO is the same.

Ff14 is thriving and it’s in game store is way worse the wows.

Yet according to you it would all be legal cheating.

What ability to keep up with the token?? What does that even mean?

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You’re delusional if you think there’s no pay 2 win.

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Then your definition of p2w means all MMOs are p2w…

That’s pretty stupid.

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Is Blizzard paying you to defend them? I don’t understand why you think WoW Token is okay for this game when they said they wouldn’t add it.

Everything Blizzard has done has been to make money and it started with removing people being able to boost their friends, so that they would sell more boosts.

Now they see people buying 15k gold for 20$ and they think “No, we’ll charge 3x the price and actually enforce it better”.

And I have never bought gold, but I did recently look up prices of 3rd party sites just out of curiosity.

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The classic community deserves to have it’s face spit in, and more.

They have gone out of their way to ruin classic with their gold buying rmt addictions for years.

Find another hill to die on, classic is nothing but cheaters.

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Ben the mage buys 10 tokens off the store to sell for gold.

I buy all 10 of his tokens off the AH, Ben the mage now has 60k gold, and I lost 60k gold.

Nothing changed. Only who has the gold changed.

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I dont think you understand what the word literally means.

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WoW is supposed to be a game of time and dedication. Anything can be acquired with enough time and dedication. And the beauty of it is supposed to be that everything you are in real life is IRRELEVANT in WoW. Your wealth, your status, your looks, etc, all of it is meaningless in WoW. Because it doesn’t matter how much money you have in real life, if you want a character at max level you have to put in the time and dedication to get that. If you want a mount that costs 50k gold, you have to spend the time and energy to earn that gold. Even a real life pauper can have a more powerful character with cooler, rarer mounts weapons/armor/items than a real estate tycoon.

That concept is violated when you buy gold. That is why buying gold was considered cheating. And that’s why the WoW token is bad for the game. It’s just more gold buying. The token is basically a giant middle finger to players who put in the time to legitimately EARN what they have. It’s a bigger middle finger to players who don’t have the disposable income to keep up with the players who do. It allows real life advantages to seep in and influence the game, when they are not supposed to. This violates the integrity of the game.

Suppose you’re in a GDKP. Suppose an item drops that you really want. You’ve spent a lot of time in the game farming the gold, or doing other GDKP’s, to accumulate a lot of gold to get this item. Then you lose it to another player. That player had more gold. But they didn’t have more gold because they spent more time farming than you. They had more gold simply because they bought tokens. They have the disposable income to buy WoW tokens, and you don’t. You will always lose items to that player. His real life advantage of wealth is giving him an advantage in the game.

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This is exactly why the Token is bad for the game. Now its “better” to just buy Tokens instead of actually playing the game legit. Although I don’t do GDKP and never will, nor will I buy the Token, I’m still forced to play with other people on my server that are buying tokens.

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Killing the boss is winning.

You have to win before you get loot, even to buy in a gdkp.

If there is any real pay to win, it’s people paying for arena boosters for titles.

Would you like a Glad carry? I can arrange that for you; its gonna cost you tho. Tokens are the preferred currency on the forums.

You already are.

You’re either for changes or for no changes. If you’re for changes you got what you deserved.