I agree. Id move my guild over also.
We have that, we have the option to get fliers or ground mounts. People who are anti-flying want no one to fly, not just themselves.
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I think Classic doesnât have flying, but Iâm not 100% sure about thatâŚFor all you people who hate flying, you should check that game out.
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No matter ones personal style of play or even belief system when it comes to play. The player will choose the path of the least resistance and what gives them the clear advantage in game play.
There are advantages that fight has over ground travel and always has, it always will. It one of the reasons that Blizzard wanted to remove it, and now chooses to pace it out to when players can actually regain flight in each xpac.
Well some people from classic are coming over and demanding retail become classic 2.0 with no flying. Others want flying to be time gated for a year as it currently is. Many want flying to be available from the start of the expansion with pathfinder. Others do not want pathfinder at all and just want flying to be purchased by gold.
My solution is to just give the never fly player base their own server or give the pro flying crowd their own server. Let people play in the server community that fits their play style the most.
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Seriously. Do people have 0 clue why pathfinder is even in the game? Instead of posting non stop whinny flying threads, do some research first.
There isnât really a ânon flying crowdâ. The ones who seem they are likely fly as we speak. Just because people like pathfinder, think it is fine, etc. doesnât mean they are ânon flying crowdâ. No one posted they wanted flying removed years ago to where Blizzard was going to remove it. It was BLIZZARDâS choice and wanting to remove flying all together and had nothing to do with the community.
Since you donât seem to understand, let me explain this to you:
BLIZZARD, not the community, wanted flying COMPLETELY removed. A huge majority of us complained because we love flying. With the results coming in, they decided to bring it back but gave us their compromise. Just because you might not like their compromise doesnât mean it isnât one.
Anyways, Blizzard wanted us to experience and put in some work to see what they spent all their time, money, work, late hours, all nighters on. God forbid they want that huh? They didnât want people who just power level each expansion via dungeons, pvp, minimal questing etc.
So they gave us pathfinder. You complete almost all of it by just playing the game. So you have to do some rep âgrindsâ. They are insanely easy and fast compared to rep grinds from Vanilla, BC and MoP. These are a joke compared to those. Even that quest in Vanilla in Desolace to pick one of the 2 factions and grind like made all for a quest.
So here is your option. Donât like pathfinder then donât do it and donât fly. Or, go play another mmo since flying means this much to you. Too bad pretty much all other main stream mmos donât have flying though.
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How inclusive and tolerant of you.
Not all MMORPGs. FFXIV gives you flying as soon as you explore all areas. And ESO has teleportation hubs everywhere in the world as soon as you discover those. Which is more immediate than flying. WoW is pretty much the only of the current ones that sticks to the slow way of travel for almost a year thing.
There are flying dragons and pegasus in fantasy worlds.
Do some research yourself. There is a forum post currently active with a small group of people asking for flying to be removed. There are also people in this forum topic who asked for it to be removed. Most of them come from the classic crowd.
Just because you do not like my feedback does not mean that it does not count as valid feedback.
How I enjoy the work and art is up to me. Da Vinci does not get to tell everyone how to interpret his paintings and how they should enjoy it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If I say that I enjoy the artwork more from the skies then that is my truth. It does not have to be yours. Slugging around for a year makes me detest the game and the art team for thinking that I wont enjoy their work if I am not grounded for a year plus.
The most boring type of content that is similar to paint drying. Anyone can get flying as long as they watch paint dry for a total of 50-100 hours. Nice game design there.
FFXIV is the biggest mmo out there next to wow. They have flying unlocked off the bat. You are clearly wrong there also. Do some research.
What is your point there? There are clearly two crowds here. No point in being around the bush.
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Freudian slip? It certainly explains your interest in people playing with themselves.
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No, we get it. You donât just want to not fly. You donât want to just not fly with others who donât want to fly.
You want to force the no flight garbage on everyone, regardless of whether or not they like flying in the game.
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Oh boy there are a lot of dumb people in these comments 
Players will do what they find fun. If being on the ground is more fun then stay on the ground and have fun. Clearly the people that say they like no flying are very hypocritical. That or they value efficiency over fun and if thatâs the case should be arguing for flying and not against it.
Thatâs what most arguments on the forum boil down to.
I have no idea what yall are talking about, I just saw that sentence.
Nothing wrong with people playing with themselves 
The way I see the argument is like this.
Two people think swords are cool. They like swords. They like everything about swords. They like whacking themselves with swords.
Then, one day, someone hands both sides a machine gun. One is like: âAw man, guns rock!â the other is: â⌠um, but this isnât my style. I liked swords. Canât we just keep using swords?â
The first side then says: âNo, screw that. We got machine guns now. You donât like it, keep using a sword. No ones forcing you to use a machine gunâ
The second side is like: âI like using swords and would rather use swords - but it isnât practical and makes no sense when we both have machine guns. Hell, you were fine with swords before we both got machine guns!â
And the first side is like: âSwords were limited, harder to use and I donât wanna go back. Itâs bad enough I have to use them for like half a year every expac before being able to use the machine guns⌠some skins of which I actually paid money for.â
Both sides of the argument have merit. Iâm fine with flying, but if everyone were forced to stay on the ground, Iâd be fine with that too. What I donât like is flying for some, not-flying for others - really sucked when I was first coming back to play, took almost a month to get Pathfinder. It felt awful, riding around Nazjetar on my horse, navigating that BS of a zone⌠while 90% of other players just zipped around not giving a toss.
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But thatâs the beauty of a server where you can choose no flight. You will not have a situation where anyone with flight can impact anyone who chooses to go without.
The people who donât want flight actually would opt in and consent to not having flight. It would be their choice.
And they would not be involved in an economy or pvp up against anyone that has flight. Everyone else with them would have no flight.
Weâd have to treat it the way older PvP servers were. You couldnât character transfer from a flight server to a no flight server to preserve the no flight servers from being impacted by flight servers. But they could give a one time free character transfer from flight servers to no flight servers in the very beginning since everyone would be coming from flight servers at that time.
And then it would be done. Anti-flyers can have their own sandbox, where flight never touches them. And they can leave the rest of us the heck alone to enjoy the game without their anti-flight garbage.
How do you not understand that a player choosing to not fly does not make their game experience the same as if there was no flying?
The no flying crowd has nothing to stand on when it comes to the argument.
- Design? Design the game around flying since they keep wanting to pump out flying mounts anyway⌠makes sense
- PvP? (See Design). Easy fix also, WM on = Canât fly
- Ion wanted to take it away, and the failed PF system is the âcompromiseâ. Flying from 2007 to 2014 was perfectly fine, and worked great. So the past 6 years we tried this failed Pathfinder system that only a few like, the grumpy âthere should be no flying at allâ trolls support, and we should be grateful there is flying? No
If you didnât catch on from the massive boos at Blizzcon, to which Ion ignored, the majority of the player base wants to fly.
Classic is the perfect solution for the no flyers⌠until BC comes out then I canât wait to watch that implode.
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