Just give the alliance high elves already

Because you start off as Alliance. He just doesnt stay Alliance.

Im not wrong. Garithos was the last remnants of the Alliance of Lordaeron, which was the Alliance before WoW.

So which is it Joyeuse:

  1. The Grand Marshal of Lordaeron who was the de-facto leader of Lordaeronian forces after the kingdom’s fall is NOT Alliance

  2. Or the Elven leader who just joined the Alliance, but was jailed for treason and fought his way out by killing those same Alliance soldiers was OUSTED from the Alliance.

What level of headcanon are we picking today?

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Plus doesn’t it use a retextured version of the Alliance multiplayer roster?

because people are not a hive mind and all have their own opinions. thought you knew that.

agreed. velves killed the idea of alliance high elves stone dead(not that an unmodified high elf ever had a chance)

apparently the belief now is if they complain enough blizzard is going to retcon the game and add a third variety of thalassian elf to the game and a second variety to the alliance when their parent race is on the horde

Yes. The Alliance is going to steal your babies.

No, you’re trying to spin the actual events of the game to fit with what you think it should be as opposed to what it actually is.

That’s actually what I have been explaining. It’s what y’all are doing. Turning the argument around by ignoring the facts available because you drank retcon kool-aid doesn’t make you right. It makes you a liar.

personally, i go with

  1. people dont just switch factions because one guy is a jerk. never in the history of the horde, except with blood elves, has a horde race left the horde because a horde leader was mean to any of them. this means, essentially, the writers made an exception for blood elves leaving the alliance permanently, because an alliance leader was mean to them. unprecedented, in the history of the game.

This isn’t a question of opinions. It’s continuing to spam topics when the issue is dead, done and gone

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thats your opinion.

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Forest trolls and ogres. That happened in the same game too. Which wasn’t WoW.

what happened with forest trolls and ogres?

It’s what all the evidence points to. It’s not an opinion, it’s reality

scattered and never rejoined the modern horde

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oh they were in the horde?

Was Garithos Alliance: yes or no?

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In WC2, yes. The entire reason of why Anasterian even joined the Alliance’s side was because the Horde and Forest Trolls became allies thus leading to the Quelthalas campaign of the Second War.

This isn’t retcon, it’s core canon; I played through the damn campaign back in the summer of 2003 and remember it pretty clearly owing to how TFT told a very mature, clever story wherein all of the protagonists started from relatively good standing and became somewhat grey as the events went onwards and how much this intrigued me for what story telling would be going forward.

And the fact is that the High elves as a nation ditched the alliance owing to how horrible their treatment on behalf of the alliance was.

oy. what a convulted mess.

Not really. The Horde was utterly defeated and absolved in the Second War, the only ones who remained were the Blackrock Clans who did proclaim to be the True Horde and had Forest Troll allies.

Then when the Blood Elves joined the new Horde, why would the Forest Trolls rejoin?