Just give the alliance high elves already

You know what I’m referring to. They can stay NPCs along with the pirate humans who are working with the Horde.

I don’t know what your on about. That is the aesthetic difference, well and the color blue on NPC clothing…but I’m not really that concerned about the NPCs they can stay where they are.

Do you need me to answer even your rude remarks to soothe you?

You seem to want to paint this picture of me in a rage at my computer. That’s not what this is. You just looking to push buttons.

It wasn’t pretentious.

Many people would, most won’t.

Especially because they are a playable race.

You keep framing thing into more extreme language and making patronizing statements about me wanting people to be unhappy/being unhappy, being pretentious, or needing to be ‘soothed’. I think I’ve kept pretty level but you seem to be the one looking to irritate.

Bye.

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well since they’re an alliance faction, thru most of the alliance questing experience, i dont think they didn’t stand by them. and that is their only story. if they werent alliance affiliated, interacting with alliance players while leveling, they would be no different than an npc that serves no function other than making the game world feel populated.

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It was very pretentious, our group of Alliance High Elves have never belonged to you, and you would see a story across 8 expansions uprooted to fit your narrative simply to deny a player request, you’re literally so transparent it hurts.

Exactly how High Elves would work for the Alliance, most wouldn’t care, cause Blood Elves aren’t going anywhere, except “many” isn’t the word i would describe, die hard antis with. :kissing_heart:

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oh please. ive played the alliance. you honestly gonna stand by that statement? that an alliance high elf quest giver is a common thing?

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of course not. but the fact they arent constantly giving out quests, doesnt mean they aren’t part of the alliance experience.

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They are for some people, who are looking for it. They haven’t been persistent since the Throne of Thunder. If you skipped the Suramar quest line, you might have missed them since.

they’ve been active on alliance side since wotlk. i understand you worrying about faction identity / exclusivity but not at expense of reality.

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Most people actually, since they played the biggest role in Wrath and that was at WoWs peak with 13 million, so most Alliance players are familiar with High Elves, and didn’t have to “look for it.”

Which is more than enough to make them playable, because they never have to fit “Heca’s appearance goal post” to make them viable, your requirements are not required.

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They weren’t active in WoD and mostly absent from BFA. A couple mages showed up to shield an airship and walked around with Void Elves. Then there were two unmanned war machines which is more a mystery than anything. A lot happened in BFA, Alliance high elves were barely present.

It’s something the average player would miss. If I wasn’t participating in here I’d never known about it.

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thats not the issue. as part of playing an alliance character, you interact, over the course of your character’s life, with various silver covenant. to claim that should be irrelevant to an alliance player is not being realistic.

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It’s relevant to you. I don’t think it’s been relevant to most since the Throne of Thunder.

For anyone confused, that would include them being relevant in WotLK.

and you know this how?

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I think it fair to say that the average person doesn’t likely share either of our views and is much less engaged in the particulars of the story, if they are even at all aware of it. When someone spends a lot of time focused on something it can appear to have more presence and relevance than it has and i think that is the case here.

Do I have objective knowledge on the matter? I don’t and you don’t either.

I’m just amazed at people, on both factions, feeling that we DON’T have High Elves:

People want Sethrak, as an allied race (well, some of them do but I don’t :wink: )
Now, let us say we got Sethrak who were “tainted Sethrak”, and had different colored eyes/whatever.

Would you then say, “We still want “Sethrak!””?
I’d certainly feel that we had Sethrak.

Isn’t there a point where it is time to admit you got a thing, though it is not EXACTLY the thing you wanted? Can’t we just be satisfied? I’d call it a “win.”

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The amount of high elven NPCs is in the triple digits. That is enough for the average human being to actively remember encountering one.

This is not how businesses who want to make money work on either end. Consumers have every right to be dissatisfied.

I didn’t deny that they remember them (unless they just started playing). I specifically cited their relevance in MoP and WoTLK. They have however fallen off a good deal since then. Currently easy to miss.

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it helps if that something is also pleasant to look at, is on your team, goes into battle with you, flies with you, gets you involved in their story arcs, keeps a portal open for you, stands suspiciously close to the horde section of legion dalaran…like right next to the undead guards… spying i bet.

sure, they’re not as front and center as say, a playable race, but over the course of the player experience, they are there often enough to be noticeable.

I mean, so were Gnomes and Dwarfs and Worgen, if you wanna consider impactful appearances a thing then you should be asking for them to be removed.

Oh but lest we forget the High Elf ballista at the siege of orgrimar pt2.

Obviously donated by the Silver Covenant High Elves with Vereesa being actively present at the siege.

But yes, keep pretending the “amount of appearances” matter, i forgot this is Heca’s world, we just live in it.

Except for the millions of Alliance Players who still have a softspot for High Elves since, wrath.

You continuing to ignore that fact proves you’re just trying to pass a biased narrative.

Which is why High Elves have remained the most talked about topic on the forums, largely revolving around their addition to the Alliance, right?

Cause “most people” don’t care either way.

Point is “enough people” care, creating your own goal post for that fact doesn’t make you correct. :man_shrugging:

Difference is High Elves have had a ton more history and development in-game than Sethrak.

So a substitute to that much in-game presence, is in fact, “not” a win. :man_shrugging:

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We won’t be getting high elves at this point, Blizzard seems even more adamant about that than usual. But if they ever were to, I would hope they change it up a little. Y’know, like how they tweaked the Nightborne with new standing poses and stuff. Make them stand more straight and not flare out one leg so much or something.

Id try nightborne if they had some better visual options.