Just give the alliance high elves already

If you’d prefer I could just bold that part, but then you’d start arguing you were justified another way. It was less clicks the way I did it.

Okay, then turn a little of that inward. Forming “bonds of friendship” over the implementation of super niche videogame content and fan fiction isn’t exactly sitting at the cool kid’s table.

Heck, think of us as opposing them due to warcrimes or abandoning their people to be human sidekicks. We’re allowed to think it’s a bad story, and not want them around.

I don’t know how much you really want to play that game, given we all saw what was in there at one point. There’s plenty of bad blood to go around. You’re certainly generating more of it.

…and yes, calling us pathetic is harassment, and against the ToS.

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To be fair, the elves often alienated and left the humans alone when a lot of them were dying only to join with the humans once trolls actually started attacking them as well and the high elves were losing against the amani trolls. They are also good friends with wildhammer dwarves.

When the humans were getting slaughtered by orcs in the first war and asked for support from them because of their ancestry and ties they used to have, the high elves weren’t really interested until trolls ambushed them with orcs and killed a lot of high elves because the trolls wanted their land back from the high elves. They didn’t agree with human leadership as well, grew sour on how to handle the orcs, and largely left the alliance until arthas cames through.

A lot of High elves only really care when they get harassed besides that, they are quite isolationists.

I mean unless you are making bonds based around denying choice you wouldn’t be pathetic. That someone would think that refers to them says a lot about why they want to deny high elves from being playable. The fact is high elves are already on the alliance they just currently aren’t playable so there isn’t really a leg to stand on storywise.

It’s an insult, which is against the TOS.

Another insult, calling people bullies for not wanting a race to be added to the game.

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The bonding is mostly around tea, recipes (feel free to ask for my prosciutto wrapped asparagus recipe), and Animal Crossing-which include people who argue for playable Alliance high elves. We actually made the server to try to reign our own members in who were trolling, to share resources, and to keep track of the flag bombing. Not that you have any actual experience with us, you’re just slinging mud.

You’re trying really hard to frame things around other people being big bad meanies, with no introspection I might add, but I think you just can’t handle that other people want different things.

You’re right, they “aren’t out there in that way”. Playable Alliance high elves don’t have a leg to stand on story wise.

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After which they left the Alliance, and briefly allied with the Naga.

They actually have a pretty big leg it’s called the silver covenant. It’s not framing it as anything it’s an accurate descriptor of people who want to deny choice. For the record I’m in favor of simply having cross faction play which while not perfect will at least allow rp to do their thing and more importantly makes the alliance actually playable. I also have no issue with alterac humans or the other attempts at gotchas that antis like to use.

She needs to demonize us so she can give the helfer cause an edge.

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Unless they have no intention for making the Silver Covenant playable…due to war crimes they have yet to answer for. Which we were reminded about in the war campaign during BFA. My best guess is they aren’t out there “in that way” because they will be trash in a future raid. They are a faction I actually hate, because until they’re due, Blizzard is telling us there is nothing wrong with collective punishment.

turned out well for them, didn’t it? If they weren’t so stubborn with only caring about themselves, they would’ve had humans and dwarves as allies instead of just doing whatever they can to survive with even more terrible groups, turning to anyone who could possibly use them as a force and didn’t care as long as it gave them power, and they kept wanting more until they were mana addicts, starving for it like junkies. Illidan didn’t give a great solution and just corrupted them but he knew it was powerful.

high elves turned their back on the humans, so the humans did the same. Elves burned that bridge. At least, Those ones. The ones that weren’t mana addicted, kirin tor related and silver covenant were just fine. The ones that stuck with the alliance and respected them, before the horde blew up theramore and dalaran was nuked by archimonde. For putting a target on their back for all that magical power.

Some people think it isn’t harassment if it’s justified. It may be justified when standing up against…I don’t know, people advocating for collective punishment, but it doesn’t apply in discussions around the implementation of video game content. That’s where context matters.

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Is that all she does? Because the only conversations I remember having with her involved her claiming that I am secretly a horde player because I don’t want High Elves. And said I should go back to a “sanctioned alliance hate thread”

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Yeah…really can’t take her seriously. :crazy_face:

My take on things was that sucking on magical artifacts or going through withdrawal wasn’t an option for everyone. Sucking on magical artifacts wasn’t all that safe either, it turned an entire community into wretched - it might actually have been the same as sucking mana from animals.

If we treat the story like it isn’t a human centric story, they have no reason to prefer humans to anyone else. it’s about who offers the strategic advantage, and at the time of WoW, the Forsaken was their neighbor, not the Alliance of Lorderon.

From out of the raging seas, the Vikingr Elf attacks!

PLAYABLE ALLIANCE HIGH ELVES FTW!

Leaping back aboard her mighty langskip, she drinks to another successful raid! Chanting sagas, she sails off; turning only once, to toast the thread!
Skäl!
:beer:

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True, it had issues, but it worked better than the alternative I guess. high elves just figured it’s what was best, not feasting on animals or a well. I just assume they’d just go with undead since they helped first and the closest, to deny them would be… suicide. The other high elves also didn’t need as much since they weren’t as addicted since they weren’t bathed in arcane energy as much as the blood elves from silvermoon. Isn’t that mostly why their eye’s don’t glow?

The alliance couldn’t really help since the Blood elves mostly refused to leave silvermoon too, which, realistically, could’ve probably saved them in the long run? They wouldn’t have been attacked from the amani trolls , nor would they be so far from everyone else. That would’ve been as hard as telling humans to stop using magic in dalaran though.

Makes me wonder how many elves may go the route of void elves since a lot of them were apparently curious in studying it in the starting zone, both high elves and silvermoon elves so they aren’t as addicted, they just will have voices in their head! Also going holy is a good option.

i liked the transmog you were using earlier

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You didn’t even roll for initiative!

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They literally let the horde cross timelines to get the maghar lol.

No I’m just sick of bullies in general. No demonizing going on if I saw people championing denying ogres for example from the horde I would be just as annoyed at them. If they were to add high elves I likely wouldn’t be able to play one as a main anyway due to raiding on horde but they make sense to be added honestly they make more sense than over half the allied races that have been added.