Just give the alliance high elves already

If you think that will generate revenue instead of dry it up, you are crazy.

Not been playing for that long of a time but, were they really? I feel like it’s possible but I have my beliefs and doubts over it.

At this point I would legit be pissed if the Alliance got another flavor of elf instead of something interesting like Ethereals, Sethrak, Arrakoa, Krokuul broken or something like that.

VElves should get HE customizations but that is it.

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Everyone talking about high elf, vykrul, shetrak…

And i am here hoping for hozen…

Yes. You’re throwing a tantrum like a child who begged for a cookie and got oatmeal instead of chocolate. Be grateful you got a damn cookie in the first place.

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Sethrak!

Eh sure why not? :stuck_out_tongue:

SETHRAK!

I want Alliance High Elves to actually be Dragon Elves.

When dragons take mortal form, they take the form of an existing race. This means that the group Nozdormu took his form from must exist out there somewhere. That is what I want to play.

https://image.ibb.co/nzDH3n/Nozdormu_and_Soridormi_High_Elves.jpg

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That would mean alliance getting the same elves already in game which is what half this thread is about not happening. That would also mean Dragons on alliance which would be OP as hell lorewise. Plus, dragons are dedicated to protecting Azeroth, not the Alliance. That can mean attacking/killing off one faction, but the Horde isn’t anywhere near that sort of action being necessary.

I haven’t seen this much “cope” since April 8th. It’s over. Let it die. We have the blue eyes. We have the high ground.

The issue with comparing this to classic is that it had an appeal to a far broader base of unsubbed players then a simple race addition would have which is desired by a comparatively small number of active subs. Further, It should be noted that the subs that were gained for classic dropped by at least a third by the end of the first few months as players realized it wasn’t the shangrilah that the hairiest neck bearded grognards had convinced so many it was.

It also doesn’t account for the cost of development for this which would at a minimum include designing distinct abilities so it isn’t a carbon copy of the Belves, VA work, writing or a host of other features.

Further, you haven’t stated what horde players would recieve in return for this that would balance out the scales; Ogres? Murlocs? Ethereals? Tuskarr?

Simply put, this is a tiny net made of gold and that simply isn’t how you make money in an MMO.

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Do the great allied races they already received not count? Maybe they can get a diaper-gnome tier allied race in return.

Stage 4: Bargaining.

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Whether you like the races you’ve recieved or not is a moot point in terms of balance; both factions recieved equal numbers of races.

So the question that naturally comes up (from an economic standpoint) what race would Horde players recieve to balance out the gains for the alliance that would somehow satisfy both them and the alliance?

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Like I said, the Horde can have Diaper-Gnomes!

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Not saying that slavery didn’t share a part, but to proclaim that slavery was all that it was fought over is absurd.

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Why? We helped the Ankoan more than we did the Sethrak.

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It’s not a comparison. In no word did I compare the Helf inclusion to classic. You use classic for data accumulation to gauge how big a market is. The only comparison that holds is that subs are gained by hype, and classic was hyped up the wazoo. Helves are getting -free- publicity and -free- hype for ten years now via negative reinforcement. That’s your marketing campaign right there, and it didn’t even cost you a penny.

Dev cost is minimal. They could implement Helves right now if they wanted to. Everything they need to make them is already in the game; this is where it’s oddly comparable to classic, which is another ‘low development cost, high profit’ venture. At least, given the final result, classic should not have cost much -at all-, beyond maybe the money for a server hardware expansion. As such, fiscally, classic was a huge success.

As for what the horde would receive, it isn’t really part of this debate, but, I am fairly sure that if I am correct and Helves are the ‘rainy day’ plan for the alliance, that there’s already something in the development drawer for Horde, and quite possibly just as complete. That would be my bet at least. I don’t mind Horde getting cool stuff, btw. But, that should be whatever you, the Horde players, want on a constructive basis and not what some Alliance dude who doesn’t play Horde much thinks you might want. So, what do you want? You tell me.

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Whoa whoa! Calm down!

… why did someone flag this?

Also, I agree, giving the Alliance High Elves would actually go a longer way to balance the factions than Void Elves did.

It was a nice bone to throw, but it wasn’t the right one, no matter how well intentioned.

That said, I still love my VELF. :heart:

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The number of subs you’d catch with this is statistically insignifigant; it’d be the equivelant of hunting in between couch cushions for pocket change when you’re looking to do payments on a car.

Voice acting (essential for any race), modeling (unless you think people would be satisfied with the vanilla helf models fifteen years later…), writing and other bits all take time, otherwise you wind up situations like the Rendorei wherein you have a lackluster bit of lore to justify their existance and an irritable fan base. And all that time needs to be paid for not just in the development phase but also in the long term.

You’re the one that’s proposing alliance get a new race, you tell me which one would be given to the horde player base that would simultaneously satisfy the horde player base (which is the lions share of the consumer base as a reminder) and also not offend the Alliance (who are in this situation entirely because of their inability to accept that they didn’t get this the first time around and are likely to be enraged if the horde gets anything other then an untextured T posing rig).