Just curious

What classes/specs are you guys expecting to see nerfs during tuning pass?

something that rhymes with bubbletea rouge.

rouge doesn’t rhyme with it actually nvm.

sub rogue. thats what you wanted right? another sub rogue thread? i think it’s safe to say everyone’s thinking sub rogue.

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Well that was 1 thing I had in mind haha Just curious what others people were experiencing was over preforming atm.

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rogues fine just mm terds

everything seems really strong. outliers are like rogue and double tap from camo mm.

it’s too early to say since we don’t know if this will be better, or if it will be even worse at 230. (geared) ilvl.

That being said, if it doesn’t get changed the early season is going to be painful af for most people.

Hopefully spr. Unless I can find Owlplay Qs on my Boomy. Then hopefully arms dk sub mm ret.

Sp/arms/sub/ww/rsham need to be looked at in priority.

Hopefully a slight nerf to MM double tap (I dont have any hope for blizzard to redistribute the damage anyway), slight nerf to most hybrids burst and offheals. Maybe double tap breaking camo too would make life easier for some classes.

Some conduits/legendaries are obviously imbalanced as hell (mages are gonna be a nightmare later on).

And fix pet ofc :d

(Overall I feel like the pacing is enjoyable, hence why I would prefer to wait a little, and why I insisted on “Slight” both for offensive and defensive aspects :smiley: )

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Is not rogue itself, got hit by a rogue decently hard, followed by an 11k Echoing reprimand hmmm…

I’m surprised you mention arms. I dont feel like they are too bad really atm. I think MM needs more than a nerf to double tap honestly they do alot of dmg with aimed shot alone as well. I also think ret needs a little tweak but not too much or they wont be viable later.

yeah. it’s really obviously and specifically subtlety kyrian.

Arms is by far the best spec in the entire game imo, wait for it.

Yah, with my 16% versatility too.

I can see that with their utility and burst being pretty great right now. My warrior is 60 currently and I dont have a full set of pvp gear yet, but I do pretty well in wpvp atm. Obviously I cant beat everything though especially classes with some sustain as arms arnt the best at 1v1 or 1v2 situations.

Bgs, Wpvp and 2v2 skirms are obviously not where warriors shine the most :grin: They are already extremely good right now and they have amongst the most broken conduits in the game.

Based on my experience on beta, people complaining about MM/sub right now have no idea what’s coming with warriors and WWs in a few weeks/months ^^’

Huge damage, unfair utility compared to other classes, amplified cry, 1min15 parry, overtuned intervene etc. You won’t ever lose to a MM hunter as warrior I can promise. The spec can play with literally anything to glad/r1 range.

what talents you use as arms

if sub rogue spriest mm hunter and probably also ww arent nerfed before season starts this is gonna be a really bad season lol

i think ww and spriest are overtuned but mm and sub seem like theyre a level above with how ridiculous they can be

There’s what needs nerfed and what will be nerfed. Two different things. I’m not even sure what really “needs” it at the moment, but Imo what will most likely be nerfed is Enhance, Moonkin, MM, Ret, and maybe UHDK. Blizzard doesn’t like it when these things are too good in my experience. They may also slap sub rogue pretty hard sending us back into the arms of assassination rogues. I kind of doubt it, but they don’t baby rogue to the same degree as mage so it’s possible.

and why nerf enhance, its pretty balanced atm

I’m not saying these are the most egregious outliers and should be nerfed above others. Only that I can easily see it happening that way.

I dont feel like enhance is op either, but judging from blizz’s past I say if you were to bet on them being nerfed, you would prob win lol.