Please in the name of the light bring back Joyous Journeys EXP buff. Please consider making this a permanent buff on your account if you have a max level character. It promotes leveling alts and helps the game.
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Nah.
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This buff was a cancer to the game. People that say it âhelps the gameâ donât know what theyâre talking about.
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Your inflammatory reply is about what I expect on here tbh.
It helps by making it slightly quicker to level alts, thereby increasing player engagement and playtime by allowing more alts for endgame. There are two reasons right off the top of my head, Mr Smarty Pants omegalul
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Bring Joyous Journeys time two.
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Agreed, people who claim it âharms the gameâ just feel the need to gatekeep, thereâs zero reason to keep the leveling slog as slow as it was the first time, while I enjoyed the first time, the next times just feel awful, weâve already been there, done that, donât need to spend just as much time on the same stuff just to get an alt up.
Iâll never understand why people feel the need to complain so much about minor QoL changes, gameâs already got a LOT to do without just leveling up, leveling up quicker isnât going to break anything. In the end people just want the rest to deal with the slog, classic purists, elitism and crap like that, and 9 times out of 10 their only responses are flaming those who dare speak against them, but as far as I can remember thatâs how these forums have always been.
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They did add it to the game permanently between tbc and wrath. They reduced the amount of xp required to get to max level by half. But because you do not have a little icon on your screen that tell you this you refuse to level and now want more.
They made it permanent again would result in the exact same scenario. â I WaNt MoRe Jj oVeR 5000% plzâ
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how does it harm it? explain
If you donât want the buff, you could always remove it for your characters⌠Iâm not sure how other players leveling faster is bad for the game. Please explain.
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I agreeâŚbring JJ back! It assists altoholics without detracting in any way from the game for those who choose to disable it. Iâve yet to here one substantial reason why itâs a negative for the game.
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âGuys a buff that lets you play the game LESS increases player engagement 
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Are you pretending to be blind? Try taking a glance at my post. I made about 100 different arguments why itâs negative for the game. Here Iâll give you an easy one: IT WASNâT IN THE ORIGINAL GAME AND BLIZZARD ISNâT COMPETENT ENOUGH TO IMPROVE A PERFECT EXPANSION
Actually, if peopleâs play styles is just leveling alt after alt, making it faster to do so may have the opposite effect.
Well if your paradigm about Classic is #nochanges, then I DO agree that the substance of being against JJ has merit in that context. But thatâs wholly subjective, and I still do not agree that it has any merit towards âwreckingâ the game. I would argue that having this available to people while YOU perhaps disable it at an Inn, has no adverse effect.
Or are you racing someone to max level so it makes that unfair? Are you worried at max level that lowBâs are going to suddenly steal your raid spot once they unfairly ding max faster than expected, and in scrub gear?
Nothing to comment on your scream, Iâm not Blizzard schillâŚI just think that there are WAY bigger issues to yell about.
A toggle button doesnât mean Blizzard should have free reign to keep adding stupid changes to the game. Wrath was perfect. Leave it alone and stop trying to âfixâ it.
Complete strawman fallacy. Rewarding the mentality that playing the game = bad and that players should play the game less, and things should be faster and more convenient is exactly one of the main reasons retail is a horrible game. Classic doesnât need to be made worse by adopting retail âconvenience and instant gratificationâ mentality.
âŚWhat are you talking about?
pleasee bring back joyous journey⌠for the rest of the expansion!
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How is this even a discussion haha like what.
Anyone who says JJ is bad for the game is delusional .
Leveling is not the main source of content in wrath.
Get more real players to 80 so theres more groups and community .
Oh and Ban bots that we report thx
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Blizzard has free reign to change whatever they like in their game. The market, conversely, has free reign to accept those changes or walk away.
Well, it wasnât really a straw man insofar as it wasnât offered as any sort of argumentative proofâŚit was asked as a question, and somewhat rhetorically, at that. People are not always logical, and I was asking to see if your disdain for JJ was just because you just feel you no likey.
You shouted, âIT WASNâT IN THE ORIGINAL GAME AND BLIZZARD ISNâT COMPETENT ENOUGH TO IMPROVE A PERFECT EXPANSIONâ
You donât have to answer of course, but do you see that when you imply that it wrecks the game, particularly in a feature you can completely disable, that others equally subjectively disagree; and their support of JJ is not to play the game less, but often to play the game MORE. Yes I shouted. tsk tsk 
Yeah and I have free reign to call them idiots and tell off anyone encouraging them to make more stupid decisions. Go figure.
Which the point of that question being non-existent outside of trying to posit a strawman fallacy.
Caps lock is for emphasis not because Iâm shouting.
No itâs so they can get more lvl 80s because they canât be bothered to put the time into playing the game at the original pace that wrath gave us⌠which makes one wonder why theyâre playing classic if they hate aspects of wrath so much.
I hate to pick-and-choose, because itâs easy to equate that with intellectual dishonestyâŚbut the rest is really somewhat irrelevant to the issue of JJ.
I think your argument of âcanât be botheredâ is misplaced. For some, sure that might be true. They want to install the game and jump into end-game. But for many others, itâs because (like me) they like alts and want to experience the game with more windows into it, not just one that took an age to max.
Consider thisâŚhave you ever advocated for ânegative JJâ? What I mean is, have you ever advocated that Blizz make levelling LESS quick than OG LK? I assume not. But I mean, why not? Does not doing so mean you canât be bothered to level properly, just wanting more 80âs, since levelling is faster at normal speed than it would be if JJ was -50%? My point (again somewhat rhetorically) is that JJ is not really âfastâ, just fastERâŚand your objection MIGHT just be subjective bias. JJ is still laughably nowhere near retail.
Actually⌠no you donât, but I would love to watch you exercise your âfree reignâ.
Begin anytime youâre ready.
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