Vareesa turned out to be the murder hobo all along, but this journey sure has been swell we laughed, we loved and we all learned that friendship is magic.
Yeah, sure she doesnât.
Thatâs like in that meme picture with Stalin and man that isnât there anymore. He was. he was there.
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Oh come now, how dare you besmirch the man who invented photoshop before computers. (Sarcasm)
Because I am lazy and do not want to go to the hassle of redoing the questline on a Horde toon in MoP remix, can anyone tell me if it is different Horde side?
Like, I followed her around on my Alliance toon and 99% of the time she just teleports the Sunreavers. She does occassionally throw a fireball or frostbolt but generally teleports them before the Sunreaver is killed. I think it slightly changes when I got too close and actually aggroed some.
So, on the Horde side is she murderously killing people? or does she teleport most of them to the Voilet Hold/if a Horde player attacks her does she teleport them to VH?
After four years away, Iâm glad to see some things never change.
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So, on the Horde side is she murderously killing people? or does she teleport most of them to the Voilet Hold/if a Horde player attacks her does she teleport them to VH?
She does indeed kill people Horde-side, yes.
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Chronicles IV will confirm that Jaina didnât actually kill anyone, she merely teleported the traitors to Violet Hold. 
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No one was a traitor. Stop pushing your fake narrative.
In BfA, when she is confronted by that one angry Blood Elf mage, Jaina doesnât say:
âI never killed anyone or hurt anyone it was bugged out!â
She acknowledges what she did, and that his anger is justified. She says:
âYour quarrel is with me.â
Seems like only die hard Alliance freaks seem to deny the lore that even Jaina acknowledges.
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Except that isnât even what she said. All she said was âhis vendetta was with herâ not that his vendetta was valid. In fact, Aethas doesnât seem to think its valid consider he was trying to find her a gift. And this was done in a heroic âyeah fight me and let everyone else leaveâ deal. Not in a âim guilty, so Iâm giving myself up to youâ.
And even then there is a big difference between being guilty things got out of hand/people did horrible things beyond your control and outright murder of civilians.
Jaina, the Silver Covenant and the Alliance still betrayed the Sunreavers and the Blood Elves.
Just because two people betrayed the Sunreavers, does not mean that the Sunreavers betrayed the Kirinâtor.
There is no other logical answer to this entire crapfest.
The position of Jaina and the Silver Covenant is UNDERSTANDABLE, and that is being generous, considering Jaina acted against the Sunreavers based on her own bias. But they still betrayed the Sunreavers.
As Rommath also pointed out - the Kirinâtor favoritism is showing. When actually discovering the large amount of Alliance troops that had been stowed away in Dalaran. Meanwhile the Sunreavers as a collective despite actions being taken by only two individual traitors, for aiding the Horde.
Like what.
Blizzard intended for it to be a grey area. What they wrote was a massacre planned by Jaina and the Silver Covenant, even down to the smallest of detail of executing Blood Elven shopkeepers, simply because they were not taking a side in the fight; âYou are either with us, or against us.â
And that was on Jainaâs orders, Vereesa made that much clear.
I hope Blizzard continues to be consistent with that, as Cursewords also points out.
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In that scene, he calls her a murderer.
âHave you forgotten the Purge of Dalaran, murderer?â
She doesnât reply with:
âI never hurt anyone, it is a bug!â
She doesnât deny it. In fact, she draws a factual connection, cause and effect, by starting her reply with:
âThenâ
She says:
âThen your vendetta is with meâ
To which he replies:
âNo. You will watch your friends die⌠just as I did.â
She did not deny it. She out right draws the connection herself, between her murdering his people and the vendetta he is speaking of, by her use of the word âthenâ to draw her conclusion that she alone should face the consequences.
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Or she was just saying whatever the crazy elf blocking their path wanted to hear. She did not say she was guilty.(and if she did say that, what exactly do you think that crazy elf would do?) Only that whatever quarrel he had was with her and she wanted the other to be able to escape.
She wanted to âface the consequences aloneâ because she was trying to make sure everyone else got away safely, the same way she did back at the Siege of Zandalar even at the peril of her life.
Canât we wait until Chronicles IV is actually out to have this argument?
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Where she lead the charge and killed another neutral individual, a king even.
No!
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I was hoping to, but then there are people claiming Jaina is out here in game just ramdomly killing everyone when I checked on my timerunner to make sure she wasnât.
You mean after they sent forces to help the Horde attack her city?(the pre raid quest actually have Zandalari crew members helping the Horde seige Boralus)
You mean after the Alliance captured a neutral princess, tried to kill her, blew up the neutral factionâs fleet.
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You mean after said princess was planning on Allying with a genocidal warchief and planning on giving said warchief the use of her fleet so she could win her genocidal war? We can keep going if you want.
Redundant, you got nothing. Being a neutral faction and wanting to talk with factions means nothing.
And she was going to the Horde to ask for help against the Blood trolls⌠surprise surprise.
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I mean, you necroâd this thread after a year, but even all that time ago, people were telling you that the Horde version was different.
Seems the answer is the same all this time, even after your self necro.
You have a chance to find out, and you choose not to. Curious.
Sounds like the real reason you donât see it for yourself is because you are afraid of seeing your precious Jaina do bad things. Afraid of the truth.
Kind of kidding, I have no interest in MoP remix at all. I hated MoP when it was current. I canât blame anyone for avoiding content in MoP remix when I wonât touch it.
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