I have a post, and there are several others.
maybe consolidate ideas into one long post.
They don’t need a third spec. See easy, stop trying to fix a class you know next to nothing about.
I know at least as much as you, if not more. You haven’t played the Alpha, or the Beta, and you’re not on the development team. You’re just trolling at this point.
I don’t know what you expect from video games? When the Halo franchise makes a game it always has spartans, battle rifles and aliens. By your logic they have never added any new content to the game. Wow is built around these systems, they are the entire point of wow. Its the only new content this game is about.
I agreed that people wanted them, what I tried to convey is that the desire for them has always been a passive want rather than a deeply held want.
as opposed to what? how do they write a deeply understood back ground lore before its written? They made the lore this way because the story they want to tell involves it. If you don’t like the story thats fine but you are not a writer on the team and I for one would rather have a dev team with a vision do what they want over a dev team that can’t do anything interesting or new in order to keep the player base from rioting
WoW is WoW. Most fantasies don’t have half naked dragons with big boobs either but here we are. If your making a lore argument than ya they absolutely CAN tank. They just haven’t seen it done yet. Thats why after DF they will most likely get access to other classes.
I don’t know any other way to label this type of complaining and entitlement though. Take it how you will but spending $20 a month doesn’t mean you get to sit in on the writing and development team meetings and make sure the game is crafted to your individual liking. I also spend that money and I like what they’ve done
…spoken exactly like someone who doesn’t understand tanking. it wouldn’t work.
Sorry must have missed that since the goal post moved, because I was responding to this.
Sure other stuff has been asked for and maybe if we had full analytics we could see exact numbers and know exactly what has been asked for the most. But it’s not Dragon race announced 3 weeks ago and no one ever said they wanted it until it lost something.
maybe consolidate ideas into one long post.
I agree, I see a few Dracthyr tank posts. And there’s a lot of responses. Can someone tell me why Blizzard is so non-responsive to the community that we do not get a single blue post or Warcraft council post about this?
Asmongold pointed out the fact that Blizzard lost 2 million active subscribers last year. Hmm, let’s see, maybe this is why. We have a contentious issue that people are passionate about, and to my knowledge, no one from Blizzard is commenting on or addressing the issue. Instead, it seems their developers are making unilateral decisions without considering the community, and most likely these same developers are not even playing the game that often.
A successful company cannot be managed from the top down, especially a company that depends on the free-will decision of consumers to buy their goods. The issue here is greater than should Evoker be tank or not. The issue is why isn’t Blizzard justifying their decision in a way the community can provide a consensus on?
you can’t lose something you never had? The addition of dracthyr is a net gain, nothing less. What exactly have you lost?
also I don’t see the moved goal post. You said you looked up dragon race threads and I pointed out only a small % of those threads asked for a playable race. I think that directly supports what I said here.
not that the idea was never there until it was announced but that it was always strongly wanted until it was
Blizzard already stated that this class is range this time, not for melee.
Thats the design goal. It’s now the range playerbase’s turn to enjoy a full caster class.
Like honestly, people here just hung up on greed at this point. I guess three melee classes in a row with tank role is not enough to quench the greed.
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There is no Range caster Tank in WoW …
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Exactly, it’s like WoW is the only game people have ever played. There are other games that do ranged and caster tanks just fine, yet the idea of blocking, attacking and taunting with magic seems utterly inconceivable to people.
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Well can’t speak for Blizzard but they haven’t had a great history of communication in my opinion anyway over the last expansion or so. As for the CC I don’t think they care if it isn’t affecting them of the 2 people who responded to me asking about it, one said check this thread which didn’t go into the racial side of it at all and no one really responded to the tanking question other than leave Evoker alone. The other just said that they agree with Blizzard and doesn’t need to discuss it.
It’s their game and Slyvanas’s story we just get to experience it.
This is what I have been asking for if they want to hard line the issue then tell us why it is, not ignore it and throw out platitudes like “possibly” or “down the road”.
Out of genuine curiosity, name one
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SWTOR
for example
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You stay in melee range. That’s it.
I like that you’re thinking OP.
But honestly the best solution to this, would be to have Dracthyr just get a few more class options, like say Warrior. So people can still Tank if they want to as a Dragon. They could even hide the weapons in Dragon form entirely, since Evoker animations have Claw Slashes at the air for some of their spells. They could just repurpose those slashes as melee swings for warriors, for that race. Which might eventually pave the way even, for Worgen to hide their weapons too.
But Evoker doesn’t need a Tank Spec per se.
I LOVED that game, but I haven’t played it years. Don’t the ranged tanks basically just do their spells in the melee range most of the time for the bosses anyhow, with the option to move to range?
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Or a better version of BRM’s Angry Dave Statue
Exactly which defeats the whole purpose of ranged tanks, so it doesn’t work. Dungeons are designed with melee tanking in mind.
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Of those I play, SWTOR and ESO.
SWTOR’s Vanguard/Powertech (Republic/Imperial mirrors of each other) prefer to be in medium range and can hold threat at a good distance.
I’m quite partial to the Shadow/Assassin myself, which weaves in and out between medium to melee range. I found myself using force lightning most of the time even in melee, except during the execute phase.
Meanwhile in ESO my favourite class is the Sorcerer which can be built in a number of ways; pets or no pets, ranged, melee, stamina-focused, magic-focused. I tend to use a frost staff for tanking, and I spam crystals and lightning AoEs. Whereas most tanks have trouble dealing with a boss’s AoEs in melee range, I often find it easy to circumvent the issue entirely because I can hold threat from a distance when they’re using them.
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That too.
No, it doesn’t. It’s like you people keep picturing a hunter running away non-stop everytime you hear “ranged/caster tank”.
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