It's time to nerf Sap

No reason Rogue’s sap can be instant, spammable, all the while invisible AND out of combat. Tell me another class that can do that!

Change it to a 10 second cooldown.

This will make the game better.

Thank you for your time.

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Another person getting pwnd in PvP. Sap is broken with damage, that’s one reason it can be spammed. You need to learn how to plan ahead for these things, stay with your group, and you won’t get your backside handed to you by a sneaky squishy from the shadows.

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a thread about nerfing sap…

*thread.
not since end of wrath of the lich king/beginning of cata.

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I don’t play this game.

Sap can be instant, spammable, all the while invisible AND out of combat.

I assume you didn’t read so putting it here for ya!

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then why are you making balance requests?

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Better question. Why is bro subbed?

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I couldn’t get a refund on my sub.

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Best Question:

Is it true? Attimis is a gnome that sometimes lays down in tubs with nothing in it?

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Just adding to the list of things that need to be done.

Been playing probably before you were born!

opens up “so you’ve decided to troll the forums”
page one. nerf rogue threads.

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You are correct.

Sometimes I like to lay in my bathtub with absolutely nothing in it.

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huh? you dont make any sense.

Sap has diminishing returns, can’t be spammed because after like the third use, with a shorter cooldown each time, the other player goes immune.

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He has a good point though, Sap is too easy to get off with subterfuge and how incredibly forgiving the range is, not to mention stealth speed being near mount speed for some reason

Getting a rogue out of stealth before they could open on you used to be rewarding but for some reason Blizzard decided to not allow that to be a punishment anymore, and fighting rogue comps is always guaranteed a 2v3 or 2v1 at the start, which is lame imo.

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Making it a 3 second cast fixes the balance issue while still keeping rouges competitive.

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Whats the reason, it can only be used from stealth or in shadow dance on targets out of combat

You dont wanna get sapped get in combat lol , pro tip

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bro finally someon elese is speaking about this omg like its every game i q ueue up i see a rogue… i get sap an i trinket but then i get stunned right afterr and jsut die or i cant help my team its stupid as $*!t they just need to nerf rogue already its been the best class in pvp since classic world of warcraft u can just tell blizz just dont care. i pay my subscription. 15 dollars a month to play my character and i cant even do that when i paly vs rogue so yeah L

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It is about 10x worse in Classic WoW PvP compared to how it is in retail WoW.
Because the DR for that has a limit for it’s time until DR begins to wear off and so you can sap someone, they stay sapped and then you can sap them again and again as much as you want until you get bored on your rogue and either go away or kill them. And in Classic I can just plain stun lock you to death too. Subs are #1 in non SoD WoW PvP.

It is not spammable in retail because of it’s DR. The sound that a stealth rogue makes when it moves by you was added in on accident and was meant to be put in only for prowling NPCs, it was added to rogues on accident, they tried to remove it but it required so much recoding that they kept the sound effect in and then added it to the prowl for feral druids as well. That is why it always makes a noise when activated or when near by you. So if you don’t have your WoW sound effects shut off then you can hear anyone in stealth next to you and pop an AoE and not get sapped.

If that were true then you would have known how sap works and wouldn’t be making this silly thread…

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daddyfool is more like it

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I feel like I’ve gone back in time to 2005

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