I’m sitting here a casual wondering where all this extra money for me to spend is.
If you’re going to make blank statements about who can do what at least have some legit numbers to back it up instead of an assumption.
I think they had the right direction but the wrong execution. It’s the whales with all the money and they’re definitely here. Everyone who bought the AH mount is essentially a light-weight whale.
Cheap marketing tactics that we’ll see expand over time. It sucks. We all know the Trading Tender purchase is coming. The question is when.
It’s hard to say. I don’t even know if the game is actually being harmed. Maybe it’s just dwindled in popularity like any 20 year-old game and if the majority of the player base spends their time doing specific content and they are done with that content, they simply unsub until the next season.
I can’t say for certain if there’s any one thing creating an issue aside from boredom. I remember back in the earlier days of the game, wanting to login and play for hours on end because there was so much of the story to see and the story was compelling to go through. now it feels like the campaign is over in 20 minutes and we find ourselves waiting for next month’s chapter of the comic book to come out.
Cutting staff to the bone. Short sighted bean counters cut costs to show “growth” in profits rather than investing in good service and growing the base.
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Doubling down on esports and mythic plus. Promising communication and getting less of it.
Endless opportunities to listen to feedback and insist on something to the very end when they finally pull the rip cord on their vision of what we should define as fun.
Lots of hubris. Greed. Favoritism to streamers. More interested in spreadsheets and investors than players.
After WoW ends, whenever that happens…hopefully not for a long time, I’m done with Blizzard. It’s not the same business of the early 2000s. Those developers are all gone and doing their own projects.
I don’t expect anything to last forever. And maybe I’m just too old and too disinterested in the newer projects. I play for nostalgia mostly. And the familiarity of the design and structure of the game makes it hard to play another MMO out of frustration
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Negging posts like this one and the bleating flock of edgelords who complain the game “caters to casuals”. What’s going to kill WoW is people like y’all making new players a non-existent feature.
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Ewwww!! That’s it, I’m throwing up
The M+ key squish and tank nerfs sure catered to the most casual of crowds… 
These are some absolute bonkers takes. This is how to kill the game for good.
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You mean AP?
Either version?
Something for everyone I suppose, but not for me. And I was raid logging during the first…
I think Blizzard often leans too hard into either “we need to make something new and never-before-done to excite our playerbase” (Shadowlands, Khaz Algar, etc) or “we need to rely super heavily on nostalgia and that will do all the heavy lifting for us” (anniversary patch).
There’s a middle ground that I’d like to see more of from them, which is revisiting beloved places/characters/etc but with real love put into making it a new experience. That’s what I’m hoping for in Midnight, anyway. I don’t want to find Hidden Island #153463634—I want to return to Quel’Thalas and see it updated beautifully, and explore all the new lore and quests while enjoying the nostalgia trip at the same time. I want to see the old content respected and enhanced—I don’t want to see them trying to do something entirely “new,” but I also don’t want to see them just trusting in nostalgia to carry them.
I’m not a TWW hater, but I just don’t really care about the new stuff. I don’t feel like they have the ability to make me care at this point. No matter how many shiny new things are thrown at me, I just find myself having no real attachment to any of it. So I kind of just don’t want them to keep trying to get me to care about new things. I care about the old stuff, and I want to see new love, new development, given to those things.
So I guess it’s not entirely “doomerism” since I actually do have hopes for them accomplishing this in Midnight (and also, on a smaller scale, in Undermined, since it seems they’re really delving deep into goblin lore/culture). But it’s definitely my reason for being kind of meh about the game up to this point.
Solo content that you need at least one other person to do, group content (isles and warfronts) that we were told could be done solo but for warfronts you still need a full group
eSports and toxic playerbase.
Nevermind my previous comment with a different toon bur… Solo content that you need at least one other person to do, group content (isles and warfronts) that we were told could be done solo but for warfronts you still need a full group. Also keeping mechanics in dungeons and raids that keep them from being soloable.
ESO is a better game for casuals and has a much less toxic community. I switched over and have not looked back.
coming on the wow forums with thousands of post to talk about how much you hate wow is actually weird.
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Every so often I’ll do some guessing as to how long they can keep the lights on. We’ve got content planned out through the rest of the 2020s, so I’m confident they won’t get the plug yanked before then. That’s five years.
After that, who knows? I’m pretty sure that unless they face-plant super-hard after Last Titan, they’ve probably got at least another five years to run. Maybe ten. Beyond that, no clue.
I will say that there are professional-grade simulators out there running highly evolved forty-year-old code. So I wouldn’t rule out WoW 40 as a complete impossibility.
Those are called dolphins fun fact.
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The General Discussion Forum
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Corporatization.
Its fine to want to be profitable but trying to squeeze every penny out to maximize investor return is a toxin ruining everything it touches.
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Flying mounts, yes since TBC. I will die on this hill