I am just replying to this part. If what you say here was all the “contract” said then all would be well. The contract says alot more, and implies even more than that.
The contract says “help people you come in contact with.” Failing to do that is wrong, reportable? I pray people dont live like that. A slave to everyone elses needs is a sad, sad life.
The contract states “play cooperatively in groups.” Does this go so far as to allow a grouip to decide I have to switch to a different spec or be kicked? If so, where does the individuals rights come in?
These two cherry picked questions are why what they had us sign was an ill thought out plan. It’s why people in our current enviroment have concerns. Its not the strawman arguements you set up to defeat. Its the actual vagueness of the contract.
That’s what I would expect someone who is unfamiliar with them to say.
They want you to be decent human beings (e.g. not harassing, hating, or discriminating), but you want to play the game a different way, by being decent human beings? If you’re willing to abide by the terms then what the hell is your issue?
The conceptual philosophy behind a social contract is an analysis of the individual vs. the collective. The middle ground is accepting that any community requires people to sacrifice a portion of individual freedom for the overall health of the community. No reasonable person can have an objection of merit to this concept. If you think that clicking “Accept” on rules you’ve already agreed to will empower Blizzard to turn you into a worker bee because it happens to share a title with an 18th century philosophy book that you don’t understand anyway, then you need to stop what you’re doing and seek professional help. Seriously, I’m not joking.
No. The first part are SUGGESTIONS about how to get along in an MMO. They are also on the loading screen tips for WoW. They are not something you can report people for and are not enforceable. Letting someone die to the mobs is not against the rules. You can even continue to PvP, camp corpses, kill lowbies, etc. You can kick people from dungeons or raids.
What you can’t do is message them a string of profanity and insults when you do it.
That whole first part is just a set of tips.
The Code of Conduct is what you can actually report for
In the sake of full disclosure, just a little bit earlier, when I asked him if he thought restrictions against hate speech, harassment, and description were oppressive he said “Yes.” That is quite a window into the person.
Yeah, it’s a catastrophe that they expect you to behave the same way they have for the past 2 decades. Your freedom is at stake!!!1!!1!!!111one!!1!! Won’t someone think of the children!!!
No matter to me at all. But when people fill a discussion forum with their nonsensical objections, paranoid rantings, and absurd political theory overlays I tend to push back.
I bet if you asked him, he would not say that using manners was “oppression”. Oppression is not being able to speak out against your Govt.
Your rights to private property, liberty, assembly, etc have not been infringed on by a private property owner telling you that there are rules.
Bet he also has rules at his home or business and asked people to leave if they did not follow them.
You can say what you want, you just can’t say it in “my house” so to speak. Blizzard is simply telling you where the line is before they ask you to leave.
That person is not being truthful. That statement alone won’t get you suspended from anything Blizzard. It is a statement of fact form that person’s point of view. There is no profanity, slurs, insults, etc.
If they got a suspension there is a lot more to the story.
You don’t speak to sacrificing any of the collective rules for the individual freedoms… so how is it the middle ground? That seems like a reasonable question.
Not just me, but everyone. I do understand it, it was a good read. Don’t be so careless in referring people to professional help if they just have a difference of opinion.
Yep. The 12 and 10 year olds that have to accept a ‘social contract’. They brought it to my attention by the way.
As do we when our opinions are trying to be suppressed.
I can tell you now, that is not the whole story. The forum tools are kind of stupid and don’t include all the posts that the Mod reviews. Further, if they click the wrong one, it ends up looking like that. That person likely had several posts reported and was concern trolling - poor choice to pick that one as an example though. If the person wants to ask the CS forums the Support Agents may be able to pull up the actual context for them.
I got one once when the mod meant to clear the flags and instead suspended me. It got fixed. Mods can screw up.