Its not too late to scrap half of the Haranir and pair then with the Amani

Gives you death by thicc red Elf Shaman of your sexual orientation

3 Likes

:rolled_up_newspaper:

2 Likes

And that was a bad decision. Hard-locking characters into factions works fine in RTS games, but not in MMORPGs. EQ’s factions were far better explored and defined than WoW because they were mercurial and you could work your way into their favor… Or disfavor, if you wanted to make sworn enemies of a group. As opposed to being forced to fight characters that would be your friend if only they chose to wear a different color that day.

Debatable. Pandaren are my favorite race in this game because they actually reflect a proper introduction and choice to join one of the factions. It would be even better if you didn’t have to pick Horde or Alliance, and could instead remain neutral, but again, it would require the Vanilla code to get a rework.

2 Likes

It’s beta, it’s far too late for them to do what you’re asking.

3 Likes

Blizzard already caters to alliance way more anyways. Give the horde a bone lol

1 Like

Literally the reason why the game was so popular and how it entered pop culture and into the zeitgeist

Everyone back then new horde and alliance, there was no gamer who didnt.

It was literally like a sports team and how you choose one side to support and made players engage and identify with the factions

It build and shaped wow success, but you, are saying it was a bad decision, 21 years later, after the game overjoyed in the success build by the factions

Cant make this crap up, thats why i love/hate the forums

After legion everything is crap, there is no debate to that, we got BFA and shadowlands as combo for worst expansions in terms of lore and DF and TWW are not far behind

And that made then the least playable race exactly because people struggle to identify with then and by being neutral they just dont fit the factions very well.

Fiiiiiiiiine, thicc red Elves for everybody!

3 Likes

My thoughts on your idea. Better Idea: ask for both, for both.

I am advocating for playable High elves and Amani. If Blizzard just invested little time there. Just look what they did with the Haranir. To make the races distinct enough by using old model. :smirking_face: Two problems solved at once.

all the races that are both are crap, neutral races is cringe and crap and the game worse because of it

they are already playable since TBC

I’m excited to play a druid on Horde that I might actually enjoy.

4 Likes

Well, that’s certainly one opinion.

Yes, you’re right, WoW rode the Warcraft IP to success. After all, Warcraft was a hot property at the time and getting to explore its world was a tantalizing offer, much more so than the world other games like Shadowbane or EverQuest had to offer because they didn’t have three games worth of popularity behind them.

It also helped that WoW was much easier to get into and far more transparent than most other MMOs on offer, giving it a mechanical edge as well as a stylistic one.

And a lot of why those expansions are so hated are not just that they go to weird places lore-wise, but they also drag along the PCs on story paths that no one really wanted to explore. Horde PCs were made into complete monsters and Alliance PCs were made into hapless victims; neither satisfied the ‘heroic fantasy’ WoW was pushing.

And? I’m not playing the race to win a popularity contest, I’m playing the race because I found them far more compelling than ‘me Orc, me Horde, that just how it be’. Pandaren offered an actual philosophy for joining either the Alliance or Horde. Did you value immediate action in the face of a complex problem? Ji’s your man. Do you prefer to look over a situation and try to find the best possible solution at the cost of immediacy? Aysa’s the one you want to work with. The best part? They were both empathetic in their approaches and players could understand both parts of the philosophy, and their separation wasn’t hatred, but a desire to help in the way they find most effective.

Far more intriguing than ‘BLUE/RED MAN BAD, KILL FOR THE WARCHIEF/KING’.

1 Like

Now I am happy.

presents Herne with a fan, & inro to go with the kabuki outfit

3 Likes

So the trolls grew a bunch of quills and fur and then lost them again as they turned into NE’s? Okay…

Would probably make more sense if they were predecessors of trolls, but I don’t think they really care about anything making sense anymore.

No…

Both trolls and NE lost things as they became the 2 races. NE lost fur, quills and tusks. Trolls kept the tusks, ditched the quills and fur. Both NE & Trolls lost the nature connection their bodies had that Haranir have (such as vines around the neck) Trolls and NE are 2 separate divergent species with a common ancestor.

I thought this was easy to follow? :melting_face:

1 Like

So basically what I said then. Temu Avatars are the progenitor race. Not trolls.

This is what happens with neutral stories

You do not go to follow up your faction, with the race you play with, with characters you can sympahtize and identify with

You follow a pre-determinated avengers assemble team that blizzard handpicked

Tell me what main story the pandaren were part with besides their starting zone

Zero.

not even in pandaria they had any importance, exactly because they are neutral and the factions work in a system of kill your enemy, it just doesnt work well when pandarens are killing their brothers just because they prefer red or blue

Thre is far more to than that what you try to make it look like

Of course you would need to understand the lore for it.

Everything you said was wrong in a evolutionary process and also doesnt make sense with their appearence neither how the lore frame then.

It makes more sense that furry elves were night elves that mutated by nature magic

Which actually makes sense

Night elf + sunwell = blood elf
Night elf + nightwell = Nightborne
Night elf + fel magic = Satyr
Night elf + nature magic = Harranir

But for some dumb reason, blizzard want to pretend they are ancient and older than they should be

Unfortunately I think this is just the way it is now. They don’t really have the budget to do big xpacs like BFA anymore with faction specific stories and zones. Shared zones, shared hubs, shared stories is just the way it is going to be for now on.

With the amount of money they made by selling those brutossaurs they should have enough money to make 3 expansions with one storyline for each faction

1 Like