Its not that people made a bad choice of a pvp server

After a week??? I had my mount in 5 days

Blizzard never released any official faction balance numbers.

Then you could of easily of re-rolled and been right back there in another weekā€¦ and you wouldnā€™t be here crying nowā€¦

I honestly donā€™t think people knew to the extent of how outnumbered they were, or how many people would transfer off their server from their own side. Or that the servers were way over maxed.

Most people didnā€™t play in vanilla and had no clue that the servers were capped at 3000. Most people didnā€™t fathom the extent that allowing up to 20,000 players on a server at a time was going to have on PVP or the economy or anything else in the game.

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To this day we still dont even have any real stats that show server pop faction vs faction

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Actually i could not be right back to that spot in a week. Myself and many others took off work a few days to grind out levels on launchā€¦ not everyone lives in their moms basement and can freely play this game every waking moment

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Personally I think the biggest issue I have with all this is everybody keeps saying no changes. Most of the people that are trying to flame this probably didnā€™t even play in vanilla. They didnā€™t know the servers were capped at 3,000. And they canā€™t wrap their heads around what that means.

No, most people like being on the winning team, they would roll horde, making the problem worse.

Blizzard has tried that, unless you FORCE the transfer, people expect the other player to do it, where the problem still remains.

In my opinion, lock down the factions, if the horde side is over populated, lock it and make it where no new characters can be created.

I kind of agree with that, but in the same sense they still need to make a faction queue and cap the servers.

I think players should still be able to create toons. But, they might have to wait in a queue before logging in.

If blizzard had numbers like 65% horde 35% alliance when character names where being selected i guarentee people would have chose differently.

Especially people that are experienced wow veteransā€¦

My discord group was looking for any information about this before we created charactersā€¦ we made alliance characters on Ferlina because we found information that basically all streamers besides asmons crew was going hordeā€¦
The other servers i rolled on all had 3 hour ques on launch dayā€¦ and the new ones they were opening were filling just as fastā€¦
We were forced to make a snap decision. If any numbers were available at all we could have made an informed snap decision

I guarantee most people would have bit the bullet and rolled alliance just for the opportunity to kill more people

Make it available for me to change my rogue from horde to alliance right now and i will do it.

How can you say no one will change if they dont make faction change available

Iā€™m not seeing where anyone said they wouldnā€™t change if they made it available. But there are many servers now that have the free transfers off and the dominant side isnā€™t moving off. Now maybe if they could transfer on the same server to the opposite side they would. I donā€™t know

I donā€™t believe that. I believe people like the be on the winning side. No one is that altruistic. Lock the dominate sides down, if you want balance, force it.

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Thatā€™s kind of the consensus of this thread so far.

I donā€™t think they need to be perfectly balanced Thatā€™s an unrealistic want. But I believe if you cap them and donā€™t allow more than say 60/ 40 on at a time from either side I think that would make a major difference.

Do you see the server choices though to transfer too?

Transfer from a dominant populated server to a dead serverā€¦ why would ANYONE transfer from a high pop server to a dead one?

Because if youā€™re on a server of 20,000 people and 5 or 10,000 of you transfer itā€™s not dead. Vanilla servers were 3,000 cap. 3000 is a populated server.

ā€œStatsā€ say the server im on is high population. But i know for fact thats BSā€¦ from 5pm to 8pm server time orgimar is busyā€¦ but 8pm to 5pm the server is dead afā€¦

You log in midnightā€¦ you can quest and not see anyone for an hourā€¦ i logged in herod ferlina on level 1ā€™s to see if they were different at that timeā€¦

Both those servers at midnight look like my server at 9pm

Well I agree with you stats. Stats. Stats.
Again weā€™re back to blizzard dropping the ball. The question is what are they going to do to fix it.
and this thread weā€™ve done real good with coming up with multiple ideas. Now whether any of the big servers or streamer followers are going to like it is a totally different thing.

Can you imagine asthmaā€™s followers when they canā€™t log in if they get a cap on their server. And they continue to try to log in, and continue to try to log in. They will flame and flame and threaten to quit but wonā€™t transfer