So remember how a lot of us have been saying that people are gonna play Classic and be reminded of why Classic stopped being a thing? Well apparently Blizzard is getting so many reports on beta for issues that aren’t issues, they put out this list.
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People wanted classic, so… there ya go. Funny looking warts and all.
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Well, Nostalgia can only keep something afloat for some long. at some point the rose tinted glasses have to come off.
…Being fair they did warn us we thought we wanted classic, but we didn’t.
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This wasn’t why he said that, and also he shouldn’t have said that, anyone with experience in PR will tell you that.
Aside from that, yeah Vanilla was awful. It seems like they’re being sort of snide in some of their notes too, which is… pretty par for the course.
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I’m going to play Classic because I preferred the world pre-Cata and I do like the character progression a lot more.
I could live with some of the QoL stuff like quest tracking and barbershops.
But judging by the success of private servers, Classic definitely has its market and will probably do well.
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Shockingly enough, unlike equal halves of the community, I choose not to be snide here. Neither towards people who’s memories either failed them or hubris fell short, nor the new bodies who had never played classic who may be reporting such things.
To be fair, in some cases, there’s elements I wouldn’t have remembered and reported incorrectly since I was like, twelve during Vanilla.
In either case, all around checking off all the expected boxes.
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I’m not really getting the snideness you’re talking about, Zen. Maybe I’m just weird, but, uh. Yeah, don’t see it, really.
Yeah, the ‘you think you want it but you don’t’ line was bad, but I don’t see anything here worth complaining about really. Just a general thing to try and reduce an excess of reports on parts of the game that may seem like bugs, but are intended because of the nature of what they’re doing.
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Mainly the part about quest icons where they say “it was broken then, and we’ve recreated how we broke it, it stays”.
I dunno, I guess I’m so untrusting of Blizzard to be pleasant, I could be wrong about their intention.
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That honestly just struck me as explaining why it was the way it was. It looks like a bug, talks like a bug, but they’re explaining why they intend it to be that way.
Honestly, being cynical when a company has been so consistently unpleasant or garbage isn’t really a bad thing, either. I just don’t see anything to get angry about in this particular post, myself. I’m tired of being angry all the time, lol.
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I don’t think anyone’s angry. It’s more just… wow, that are they gonna do next?
Shrugs I’m tired of looking at everything and expecting something awful to come out of it, then. I don’t blame people who do expect that, but I have enough stress in my life dealing with trash people. Gotta enjoy something, or I’m going to drive myself into another existential pit of despair that’ll probably end up with me deliberately driving my truck into a ditch or doing something else equally stupid again.
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I interpreted more as their emphasizing "when we said “no changes that affect gameplay, we MEANT no changes that affect gameplay.”
Which, to be honest, making something exactly as “consistently inconsistent” as it was in a 15-year-old game that’s notorious for how jank the coding was is an amazing feat of technical engineering. I’m not sure that sort of thing can even really come from a place of cynicism.
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It may also be because I’m 100% positive we have some kind of “I told you so” coming because of the “you think you do but you don’t” comment.
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I find the effort to recreate such an old bug incredibly charming. Someone must have left some very good comments in the code.
For the record, I’m not ragging on Blizz for recreating Vanilla perfectly. I just think it’s funny (if not also interesting) that so many people forgot about it that they’re reporting features as being bugs.
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It’s a mix of misremembering the past and due to the fact that most people who want classic (a generalization, but very true) were avid private server players. Private servers didn’t get everything right. Like that thing where if you sit down while in combat you just left combat. Or if you sit right before a critical hit as a warrior you get an enrage proc. Nostalrius went on record saying that they would have their servers emulate things slightly more difficult than what it truly was to try and trick the whole nostalgia factor.
The red tape on the word nostalgia in the WoW community is kind of dangerous for discussion. It can go from just talking about the past and being happy to go back, to others berating people for wanting to go back, or those folk who think they know the ins-and-outs of everything business, so they claim that retail would be given less resource because everyone’s playing classic. Or that people don’t actually want to play classic. Second edit: not implying anything here, just talking about what I’ve seen since the beta launched.
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I wouldn’t read any malice into it.
If you look at the MMO-C forums there are fanatics who insist that leaving out any minor detail or bug would make it “not vanilla” the comment seems to be taylored directly to Classic’s most ardent fans.
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It’s funny what wearing a thick pair of nostalgia goggles will do. One of the youtubers I watch who did a livestream of his experience with classic thusfar stated that he enjoyed it greatly, but he forgot a lot of stuff about just how immensely different Shaman healing was.
Plus, this is one of the earliest patches. So much of the game was different, we’re getting a very old package here. He was remembering stuff from the Burning Crusade days and blending it in with Vanilla.
It’ll be nice in that it’ll basically be a completely different game.
I dislike that there are no achievements, but other than that I’m pretty intrigued. I was so young when I played the original game, it’ll be like playing for the first time.
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I played late BC, but there’s so much stuff that I miss that I took for granted when I started - class-based quests, the slower feel of everything, the older world. Honestly, while I appreciate the changes made, from what I’ve seen it’ll be nice to get a taste of what it used to be again.
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