Literally capping tomestones takes up more time in a week then I spend on grinds in wow. Like way more.
Torghast isn’t a grind. M+ isn’t a grind. Pvp isn’t a grind. Raiding isn’t a grind.
The only thing that was an actual grind was the maw (capped) and korthia (diminishing returns so kinda your fault for spending hours a day there).
To me running the equivalent of normal leveling dungeons and scenarios just isn’t fun. Three weeks in a row of that for what a chest? Sick.
Best thing about those is they aren’t really even that bad if you just keep up to date on them, and lately you finish big steps and the secondary ones you make get fast tracked. The Bozja relic on a second job took like a third of the amount of time as the first one. It’s something you can just keep on pace with and have a lot of time to do the steps. Isn’t like you were timegated on “nah, you can only get 6 of the memories this week.”
Assuming 10 minute queues which is a bit absurd for your sake, and 20 minute runs (also extreme for your sake), 30 minutes a day for 5 days is somehow more time in a week than what you’ll spend in WoW. Very much doubt this unless you choose to cap your tomestones in the most moronic manner possible and are doing like MSQ roulette which will take upwards of an hour for like half the tomestones as opposed to just running Expert Dungeon which is basically Mythic 0 here, a total snoozefest.
And well, if you’re keeping up on your tomestones, you can achieve your best in slot in what, 7 weeks now? 8? With ambient play. It’s faster if you’re clearing Savage as well. Think I was fully BiS for the tier by week 4, barely been two months and my entire static is fully best in slot and ready for Dragonsong War Ultimate in 6.1.
Good f-ing luck being BiS in WoW in a month or even two months unless your guild runs 4 heroic splits a week to funnel you gear specifically and has immaculate RNG.
Soooo tell me you have no idea what you’re doing, with out telling me.
Also, tell me how you’re full of it, with out saying it.
Tomestone cap is maybe 3 days of work, and unless you’re doing savage (which you’re not) It’s still quick to get the gear you need for things.
You can buy crafted gear, you can turn in parts for gear, you can do tomestones. But here’s the kicker, unless you’re doing high end content, you don’t even need to worry about getting all of it. Sounds to me like you just have no idea what you’re doing tbh.
Torghast is a grind in a half for leggos, M+ is a mega grind, and if you think PVP isn’t a grind then I encourage you to go try and get 2400, heck even 2100.
If you are only doing dungeons to cap tomes that shouldn’t be more than 20-30 minutes for one dungeon at most. Raids give you 10 tomes per kill too. You can just do world hunts for 30 min 3 times a week and max tomes. Tome gear isn’t the only gear either. If you even do an hour a week raiding normal you get gear pretty quickly. Its 825 tomes for a chest thats 1.5 weeks if you cap each week. Sounds like you aren’t really playing ffxiv endgame at all.
I would rather run POTD, blind folded, with a needle stabbing my tongue than do half of the gear grind in WoW. >.> God, this gear talk really makes me miss ESO’s gear system.
This also applies to wow.
You some how think I’m insulting your precious ff14 here. This whole thing was obviously in my opinion… ff14 requires more time per week, for me, simple as that.
I literally spend like 2 hours tops in ZM a week. Don’t know what to tell you here bud.
Guild Wars 2 had it the best imo if you hate grinding for gear. Each expansion has a designated item level that is the cap, you can buy it on the auction for every slot and you are done until next expansion.
Not sure if they changed this but I remember distinctly on launch I was basically fully geared the moment I hit 80 just buying gear, was wondering what dungeons or raids I had to spam for more gear and my friend was like “What do you mean? You have it. All the extra stuff is just the same item level and stat values, it just looks cooler.”
People are aggressive when it comes to anything that could potentially threaten their preferred MMO without realizing that competition breeds better products. What has hurt WoW is that the criticism for the game essentially gets ignored. And for me personally I don’t give them a gold star when they respond later with a fix because during that time they’re spending time making excuses as to why it’s going to stay and why it’s good in the first place.
The problem with WoW to me is it got too fat for its own good. Now the Devs believe that they know better than their own players and create entire wars on issues that didn’t exist in previous expansions.
Then you’re either daft, or actually have no idea what you’re doing.
And the “precious 14” shtick is just an extra caveat that shows you have no clue what you’re doing. Maybe…stop chasing the cat girls and bunny chicks and play the game? xD Don’t make me get the spray bottle like I had to do to a friend.
Out of all of the things ESO did wrong, the gear system was probably the best thing IMO. I needed to only get 2 sets of gear, and one was fully crafted by me. The other was a two piece out of a daily.
Nah it’s just to point out that you know, different people enjoy different things and you are obviously personally offended that someone has a differing opinion.
Like them changing covenants after the bulk of the playerbase quit but still doubling down on the belief that they were correct the entire time.
Bunch of clowns.
I miss Diadem grinding during the Ishgard Restoration seasons. Shout chat was amazing because people were trying to keep themselves entertained gathering by socializing and it almost always came back to “Go to horny jail!”
remember when New World was going to … yeah…
The same could be said about you whining about the things you’ve never enumerated on that you insist you have to do every week in FFXIV. What kind of argument is this?
I quit ESO fairly early so I’m not sure how it is now. Early on launch I was one of the first people in the world to hit Veteran Rank 10 but that was an obnoxious hell of a grind doing all three faction storylines and every damn quest associated with them.
Last I played was when I was in the hospital back during I want to say 2018, I remember grinding Champion Levels to 160 then gear stopped scaling and I used some weird dungeon set for Werewolf. Wasn’t the best performing build, but it did pretty good just mindlessly spamming left click for DPS. Did not take me long to get that and it was basically the best set of gear I was going to use for it.
Do like that more games are starting to realize gear shouldn’t be a complete pain to acquire and that the game should be more about doing the relevant content.
Anyone here curious and excited for what Riot MMO will be
Their world is as rich as wow Lore wise
They got good development team
It has potential
Yep. Another example for me being PvP vendors which even their members of the casting crew for the AWC disagreed with it along with their top end players. But remember! Blizzard didn’t want casuals to get lost trying to find it!
I honestly feel bad for people who expect 10.0 to be any different.
mmm no. I wish I could get offended by your inability to figure out what to do, but that’s on you not me. HOWEVER I really don’t bare any animosity towards you, it’s just that you’re objectively incorrect about the grind differences. The grind here is the reason I stopped raiding back in Cata and it’s the reason I haven’t bothered with Leggos and just play through older content for mogs now. You are free to think and do as you want, just idk Sun Cow…don’t give anecdotal evidence.