It is utterly insane that people with 485+ ilevel gear can come into a normal raid and roll Need on gear

Yes it does. They were there for the kill and they have the ability to roll.

Why is this so hard to understand

PL doesn’t change this at all. How about instead of being salty someone won a roll you learn how the loot systems actually work.

Actually it was a great decision considering Pl was being removed either way.

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