Honestly. Easily the worst content the game has to offer. You can’t even ask for help without being told to not talk.
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time for a new guild
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I feel like healing gets a little more bearable around 2kish mmr
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Yea, pretty much every other match is just people in their placement game. I’d make a post about it but Blizzard has long since mailed it in.
Just disheartening. The match I had a minute ago, all I asked was that they try and stop the Prev from just running at me at the start. Same thing every round. Pops shroud, runs at me and spams sleep. Half the rounds they managed to sleep me 2-3 times. The rogue, who apparently has 3k+ on his mains, then decided to tell me not to type. The rogue managed to get 0 saps all 3 rounds on my team and was popped out of stealth twice. He made no attempt to sap off shroud.
It’s like, what do these players want? I tell them what I need help with and then I just get told not to say anything. Anywho… I really just need to auto ignore people that whisper me. Would save me a headache or two.
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Typical rogue player. They have no problem telling other people what to do, but if they’re ever told something forget it
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quitting shuffle healing was the greatest decision i ever made
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Sadly, it’s still terrible. People still throwing matches by training the priest after a void shift or dying without pressing wall well above 2300 cr.
Idk i enjoy healing it. Around 1700cr on both rsham and disc priest.
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0-2100 CR:
DPS share a brain cell. 4 DPS run into the middle of map and all press their offensive CD’s while staring at their target frame and don’t know they’re dying until their screen flashes red. The DPS who try to kite end up avoiding zero damage and instead just line their healer. Lucky to have any of the DPS be on 3 kicks total after 6 rounds. DPS seem eager to turn their brain off, hold W, die without pressing a defensive and blame their healer for their death. DPS don’t switch targets or kill totems or kick spells. They play like cats following a lazer pointer where the pointer is enemy health bars. They will train the tankiest target all game which has defensives always available but think they were close to a win because someone dropped to 30% one time even though they had two or three defensives available.
2100+ CR:
Climbing as a healer is literally broken. Going 3-3 or 4-2 is an MMR loss and grants half the CR of the DPS who went the same in the same lobby. Blizzard said they were going to add incentives to Shuffle to make healers play but never delivered. 50 Conq and 150 Honor ain’t it lol. MMR has been broken since launch of DF and nothing has been done. Every healer knows Blizzard doesn’t care about the role, especially in PvP.
Blizzard:
Scratching their head wondering why no one wants to heal Shuffle. Thinks this is an unsolvable social problem when it’s actually one they created when they spent the last 5 years giving DPS more dopamine by allowing them to get kills without needing to CC or kick or outplay their opponents. Just press your big offensive CD and blow someone up in 1 second which increases DPS participation but makes all the healers quit.
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It doesn’t get better as you go up in raiting trust me. around 1900mmr got put in a lobby with 1200mmr dps a few on placement games. Hunter runs in all three games doesn’t press turtle once when he is on my team. Not to mention it seems impossible to actually go up in raiting… win 3 rounds get 0 points, win 4 get 10 points, win 2 lose 50 points… ya I will never heal a shuffle again.
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shuffle is where rats and apes go to die
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Don’t worry little brother, solo RBGs are coming. Time for a break.
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I switch from my mw to MM and never looked back. Now finally I have fun in SOLO
Yep games 2k or below right now are pretty miserable. It’s a mix or people that belong at that rating and people who have no gear/xp on the spec that were dumped there for placements due to inflation and haven’t tanked down yet.
Yesterday had a lobby on my Rogue where 3 of the players were doing placements and 4 of the games ended before 30 seconds had elapsed. I wish I could say it was the of the ordinary but it’s not.
It gets really fun the higher you climb.
Just do your best and keep queueing, realizing that every game/lobby isn’t winnable (but you should be able to think of something you could have done better after each win/loss, and when you can’t do this, you’re at the rating you belong at).
Having said that, one of the best things about solo shuffle is that no one is forcing you to do it. Unless you are really craving the Legend title achievement/pennant, or the rank 1 shuffle achievement/title, you don’t even have any temptations to queue for shuffle.
Liking every piece of content that wow offers is probably very rare [e.g., liking every bg, liking every arena bracket, liking m+, liking raiding across x/y/z difficulties, pet battles, mog farming, mount farming, rep grinds, world questing, etc.].
Just do as most do, and don’t participate in the content that you don’t enjoy, or at the very least, do it sparingly and take it for what it is.
Good luck to you 
Well, 1950 and still getting mostly placement games. Just lost a few rounds because 2k players still don’t understand what los is. As in los’ing me. Mage literally blinked behind a pillar at 2%. How can anyone be that bad?
Rating is clearly off. These players should be 1200 at best.
The game doesn’t teach you how to play.
People learn bad habits, the game doesn’t really punish you while you’re leveling, and they’re just expected to work it out.
Just had a shuffle on my Druid where the Arms Warrior went 1-5. In two rounds his most damage done was Sacrifice to his teammate. Other people in the lobby were 1800CR.
Which really begs the question; why are DPS like that being placed into games with other players at 1800 or even higher?
Why does Blizzard think this is acceptable for competitive matchmaking and why do they think any healer is ever going to enjoy a lobby like that? Babysitting the guy doing his best to die is an unfun experience when we both lose.
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That’s frustrating for sure.
I frequently get placement game dps and healers even at 2100+ mmr when I’m playing my dps toons, and it often ends up being a steam roll where the undergeared person/person doing placements gets 0 or 1 win(s).
I agree that previous season mmr should not carry over, but even if it started players at 1200, if/when they start poppin off with 6-0s and 5-1s, it’s going to shoot them up pretty quickly.
Maybe they could reduce the mmr swings/gains from win streaks, but then again, this would also have a negative effect in that high mmr players are going to stagnate at lower mmrs, stomping for longer periods of time until the system finally raises them to where they belong.
In any case, we all have bad games. It really sucks when the mage is 0.1 seconds too late to block and costs you a win (I’m guilty of this more than I’d like to admit), or if they accidentally los you/make a bad judgment call when they los you, etc., but this is the nature of the beast when it comes to playing with random players without voice communication.
Very true. If you don’t go out of your way to watch r1s streaming gameplay on your spec(s), reading guides, optimizing your ui/keybinds, and making a continuous effort towards improving [e.g., which generally will come from constructively criticizing yourself and receiving similar feedback from other players, then taking that criticism/feedback and working towards improving upon your weak/suboptimal area(s), whether that be changing a keybind or two, adding a new macro, removing clutter from your ui, adding a weak aura to help you track a critical buff/debuff better, trying to be better about noticing if you’re lining healer/healer is in cc, etc.].
Getting good at wow pvp is a long process, and unfortunately, more time spent playing does not necessarily equal being able to achieve the highest ratings.
That saying “practice makes perfect” is not a great saying, and I forget who mentioned this, but the reality is that “perfect practice makes perfect”.
If you practice swinging a golf club for 10,000 hours using bad form, you’re not going pro anytime soon.
It kind of sucks that the game doesn’t teach you how to play, but the information is out there, you just have to put in some time finding it.
Bad habits can be crippling. I still struggle with a lot of bad habits in arena, and in many areas (positioning well consistently, pushing in for cc at the right times, overall awareness, subpar focus macro usage, target swapping, not using more cds than necessary to survive a go, etc.).
The best suggestion I have is to watch twitch streamers that play your spec, and try to really understand what they are doing, and you should be able to get a good feel as to what they are doing that you aren’t.
When I watch pikaboo on rogue, it doesn’t even take more than a 1-5 rounds before I can make an overwhelmingly long list of things I need to improve upon on my rogue, or similarly, when I watch mes on his unholy dk, aegis/venruki on frost mage, etc.
When melee wings was the only viable holy paladin spec last season, I honestly got freaking destroyed left and right trying to learn it. After watching enough Tmborn hpal gameplay, I slowly but surely was able to learn and make improvements to how I trade cds, pushed in with wings, etc., and it made all the difference in the world [e.g., managed to go from barely 2100 to 2750+ cr].
I THINK some of the common things holding newer/lower mmr players back revolve around having bad camera movement, clunky keybinds, too few or too many addons, not utilizing focus macros well enough, etc., but yeah, the amount of information you need to learn to be successful in wow arena is no doubt overwhelming af.
I’m pretty sure that everyone at 2100+ probably at least has a few years of playing under their belt, and many have over a decade, and are working on having a second decade of experience.
In the end, just try to have fun, and if/when you cease to have fun, just take a break or stop playing.
Wow is just a game after all, and unless you’re making income from playing the game, there is no reason to treat it as anything else.
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Why not just play regular rated arenas instead?