It’s been a year, how is ret in raids?

[Theloras-herod]

@Slicy-anathema

Ret is hot garbage and that’s being polite. It’s nothing the player has done wrong, Blizzard gave them nothing to succeed with. But make no mistake, they are pure trash and a burden to any raid group that could’ve picked basically anything else and done better with it

@Phelios-baelgun

The “now” was refering to a year ago when people defended ret paladins as being viable in dps and competitive in a raid setting. Sorry for not wording it better.

Slicy, if you’re going to make a statement like that you should at least complete the full statement and also say that the class is riddled with bugs on Classic that no one ever predicted a year ago:

Consecration "incorrectly" counts as a debuff

and yet they had to write up THREE separate blue posts in order to respond to the obvious fact that Nightfall was broken AF on Classic… https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/nightfall-debuff-is-way-lower-than-2ppm-stated-across-the-board-from-classic-wowhead/445831/77?u=theloras-herod https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/proc-weapons-and-the-gcd/592642/19?u=theloras-herod https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/hamstring-reduces-the-proc-rate-of-nightfall-in-2020/598570/12 TLDR - they …