Has blizzard stated why we havent gotten these yet? Will we get them? Ring of valor was on the beta. Replaying wotlk without them is almost like if we didnt get RDF…oh wait…
Imagine getting some pvp content / variety 🫨
By like idk maybe getting wotlk content that came with the 15y/o game we’re replaying 🫨
Inb4 “ROV BAD, ISLE BAD”
I do not care give us wotlk 🫠
Blizzard is inept, They didn’t even itemized pvp correctly, we never got the hateful weapons for honor and tons of items from the honor vendor were completely removed to force people into pve raids…
not all classes need to raid pve to compete in arena, if they would just give us the proper pvp vendors, so fresh 80s can get the 1k+ res required to start climbing arena ranks without needing 25 man raid gear.
OG wotlk and Pservers had proper pvp vendors, with the weapons included… season 7 in og wotlk we had full deadly for honor+deadly weapons for honor etc etc.
Yeah i was keeping it short, but yes I agree all that and more is very different, unfortunately. Lol I called them inept in a recent post as well.
For example Devouring Plague is supposed to only apply to 1 target at a time, even says so in the tooltip. So if a warrior reflects DP it goes on me and if I reapply DP after spell reflection the DP he reflected on me should be removed when I DP him again since only 1 can be active at any time.
Classic does not do this. Currently if you get DP reflected and reapply it to the warrior the original reflected DP is not removed and now 2 Devouring Plague are active. You have to cast abolish disease, an extra global, if you want to remove it from yourself otherwise it ticks all the damage out.
My memory of original wotlk along with Pserver footage is in line with this yet on classic it makes the tooltip a liar.
I agree the missing pvp gear was shocking and never spoken on by blizzard and then bootlicker forum type tell you blizzard is the accurate one.
I’ve been uhh familiar with pservers since like 2012 and asked for official blizzard servers till they eventually delivered after shoving the
“Wall of No” down our throats for good chunk of a decade. We asked to “replay them as they were” sure expected them to fix problems but core content being removed would have never been anything people who got blizz to cave on classic ever asked for. I dont know what to think of this wotlk-lite patchwork abomination classic has become, but it’s definitely not what was promised or asked for.
Would be kinda cool to see RoV tbh. Even if its a little broken.
One of my fondest memories is playing 5s as 5 boomies - spread out and x5 starfalls 
Isn’t IoC coming next patch tho?
Bro…when the warrior reflects its considered his spell
Ring of valor was in from the start of wrath but IoC wasnt added until the Trial patch. I expect that BG to go live on classic with the next phase. As for RoV? no idea.
Lol i wouldnt assume much with this dev team if our missing content says anything. I remembered Isle of Conquest came with the next phase, but blizzards complete lack of announcing anything about it or the lack of acknowledgement regarding RoV dissappearance isnt promising imo.
RoV benefits certain classes over others, but its not like they have considered pvp in the slightest I dont know why they would have removed it for balance reasons. The map was on the beta I played a ton of it, worked fine, its there and usable yet they haven’t even said anything about it as far as I know. Almost like pretending the map never existed if they don’t/won’t say that they’ve decided to remove it or why they did.
Removed content without a word about it happening or why. Not exactly a group I’d expect to deliver on much else, pvp especially. I’m more inclined to bet that Isle of Conquest will be left out as well since I haven’t seen anything about it coming. Maybe it was said somewhere, but not that I’ve read.
There’s no reason to believe that aside from your (perhaps legitimate) mistrust of Blizzard. I think you’re worrying a little too early as Blizzard likes to screw PVP players on a personal level, not remove whole BG’s.
Any delay on IoC I hope is balance related. If so…they can take time for that. Reasonable time though lol.
Retail side IOC was probably the most sensitive to class power levels, imo.
It ebbed and flowed. As glaives start out okay, or jsut a bit op when run right. At one point IoC was the gimme win for alliance. alliance had to want to mess it up to lose damn near.
We went all in on docks, docks won 90% of the time at least.
As gear of later game got in the bg…glaives would blow up if you just looked at them. And thus the only working strat was take hangars.
If you lost hangars zerg fight that match was not looking good. if the enemy won hangars and knew to take a demo to it and bomb workshop now it was scare up whatever honor you could.
Workshop was lost at that point too. I don’t know if wrath had it coded like retail but a demo bombing workshop flag made it not flippable.
Isle of Conquest is Phase 3, just like original. Do a little research sir. Can’t speak on Ring of Valor though, I hear people disliked it originally for being buggy.
Its been talked about in this thread, we know its P3, they have missing pvp content from gear to arena maps and have said nothing about Isle coming with TOC so im talking about it before it too gets swept under the rug and ignored like a lot of pvp.
Or maybe it doesn’t need to be talked about because it’s pretty obvious it’s coming with P3?
While I don’t know about Isle of Conquest. Ring of Valor was originally removed in OG Wrath (or maybe it was Cata when they removed it, I don’t remember) because it would bug Warrior’s charge and Pets on top of it being universally hated.
I’m guessing they tried to add it in the beta to see if they could get it working and they couldn’t so instead of spending time fixing then adding in an Arena map everyone hates, they just decided to keep it out.
is isle really any good? made by the same deep thinkers who thought up Strand of the Ancients
I personally don’t care for it, but there is a group of players that enjoy the big BGs with PvE/PvP mixed in.
One of my friends that I have played WoW with for years always says that AV is his favorite thing to do.
Honestly back in the day id go to the edge of the map on the icebergs & agro a pinguin by taunting, counterspell or whatever and have it hit me all bg so i can get up and leave without afking out lol. Wasnt a fan, but some people really like it and id like wotlk content to be in wotlk, cRaYz ik.
That’d be a pretty moronic thing to assume with how we have multiple other pvp content/gear removed without a single word from blizzard.
I hope you’re right and they don’t leave another thing out of wotlk, but right now the score don’t look so hot
We were supposed to have quest helper by now. Wintergrasp is supposed to have water in it.
Never assume anything supposed to be in the game…will actually be in the game. wrath released with RAF. its not here either.
So it was in the beta played it over and over every night I was online. Worked fine. No charge bug at start on my warrior. All the pillars, fire, everything on a timer worked perfectly fine all beta.
At the very least they should ACKNOWLEDGE they cut content, yes? As far as it being hated I disagree. Unbalanced, favors hunters etc, absolutely everyone agrees & thats what you remember of it being “hated” imo. But they arent out here rebalancing pvp are they? No. They have no reason to cut content that was tested thousands of times during beta for balance reasons & if there is an issue with the map for technical or balance it should be at the very least mentioned to the playerbase why they wont be getting it.
They reworked it for cataclysm and instead of raising out of the ground you started at opposite ends and came out of doors similar to how nagrand opens. Wasnt removed till mop or maybe late cata, but probably mop going from my memory.
Also on beta the fire dmg put a dot and ticked for 800ish dmg a second, I mind controlled a few people and cooked them alive, it was great.
Thank you for creating a thread regarding this subject matter. Great posts.