Is using multiseat software with seperate input allowed?

Blizzard has given no additional guidance on what may or may not be ok to do outside of the May 2021 policy update that was linked in this thread. It is the entire statement they are willing to provide.

To me, doing what you are describing is risking a ban.

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Well I mean a computer can have two mice and keyboards hooked up to the same PC and use them both. The issue with WoW is that only ONE client can be the active/primary one at a time, without doing weird stuff, which would fall into the real of exploiting and would result in a ban. If I open two clients and put them into windowed mode, side by side, I can only input commands into whichever one is clicked into and in focus. The other one ignores my inputs. So this would mean you’d have to have some kind of bot program spamming alt-tab dozens of times per second to relay commands to the clients in the time it takes you to press a key before it’s released AKA: You’re banned.

The best stance to take with any topic like this is if you have to ask, it’s probably against the ToS.

It’s default system setup.
But you can use software for that. You login one user on windows, log in another user. You have two mice with separate inputs. You need different gamers to control that, that’s why it is not automated and it’s not bot. Logically there’s nothing suspicious about that. But system might recognize it wrong that’s why I need to know about that.

Or two accounts can play on their own individual system without all of this excess mess. Again, if you have to ask what you’re doing is wrong and you know you’re toeing that line, just don’t do it. Save yourself the headache of being sanctioned.

Same applies to windows. Yeah, you can log into multiple accounts on a PC and switch between them, but only one user will be active/in focus to receive inputs. It’s not default system setup at all. What you’re talking about is running a VMware within your regular login, which is grey area to Blizzard because you can repeat inputs to it if you want to and the VMware’d WoW client can’t see outside of the sandbox to realize there’s repeating going on. Get caught and you’ll get banned.

I wouldn’t risk it and there’s a very strong chance that Blizzard isn’t going to reply to this thread since there’s a ton of multiboxers out there trying to snake their way through the ToS with word salad loopholes.

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I said default system setup is when two mice give same input. With software you can have separate input and focus. Separate input automatically removes option for botting, that’s why it should be allowed, but system may be configured wrong to recognize that. If you think that it has risk of botting give me example of botting situation using setup like that.

The rule isn’t that you can’t do things that might be used for botting.

The rule is that you can’t use any software or hardware means to streamline multiboxing in any way.

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That right there, what you said, is the no-no. It’s doing things internally within windows, similar to what I was talking about, and is deemed broadcasting software.

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My hunch is this an us an argument the op is looking to start based on his ban.

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They reason they gave me multiple times was different (economic exploitation) so it’s not that.
Also I made two other trial accounts and played with friend just to check if they gonna ban for using the software. They didn’t ban any of those.

Using multibox software, for things like herb/mob farming, in order to make gold or sell the stuff on the AH, is classified under economic exploitation.

Sounds like you got caught and banned, system works. If you make another account, don’t do it again. Have a good day

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Accounts that I tested with software to know if it’s forbidden didn’t get banned.

With the character that used multiseat software with separate inputs (on banned account), I get only through tutorial, because my friend took a lot of time learning things. Not much to grind there to get millions right?

they reserve the right to ban your account for any reason they deem fit.

That doesn’t say they should do that or treat customers like that. Maybe it fits you, so you’re fine with that.

Well you started another thread about getting banned for economic exploitation and then you started this thread basically asking about multiboxing. It’s reaaaaaaaaaly not hard to put two and two together…

Then act like one and don’t cheat/exploit video games that specifically state you’re not allowed to, or punishment will occur. Oh and if you were an adult, you’d know that the ToS is legally binding and that they reserve the right to ban your account for any reason they deem fit. They could play roll the dice with your account to decide, if they wished. You hit YES to that and therefore, it goes.

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Accounts that I tested with software to know if it’s forbidden didn’t get banned.

With the character that used multiseat software with separate inputs (on banned account), I get only through tutorial, because my friend took a lot of time learning things. Not much to grind there to get millions right?

they reserve the right to ban your account for any reasn they deem fit.

That doesn’t say they should do that or treat customers like that. Maybe it fits you, so you’re fine with that.

They sometimes don’t ban immediately. It could be days, weeks, months before they ban you for something you’ve done. It’s to prevent botters from coding around what got them banned.

Either way, you’re not telling the whole story and are trying to paint yourself out as the victim of Mr. Mean Blizzard. If you got banned, it’s for a reason and that reason sounds like botting/multiboxing with broadcasting software. Anyways, I’m done with this. Better luck with your next account.

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Like I said I asked and the reason for ban was different than multiseat software. Also the account with game time got banned very quickly, others didn’t get banned at all.
So you’re basically saying they are always right. No comment for that.

Multiboxer sympathy is a rare thing to find - epic rare. Heelin said it all in a few words:

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But why? As casual gamer I don’t understand that. I just want to have fun with friends. If they want to get rid of everybody who does that even if it’s not cheating, wouldn’t it be right to improve system? In my case it’s not even multiboxing. It’s gaming with a friend. You would have a lot of fun. I recommend that for many games.

2 instances of the game on one computer is multiboxing. That’s the very definition. It doesn’t matter if they have different account owners.

By the way, if the 2 accounts in use don’t have different owners, then there’s account sharing, which is also banable.

Stop trying to rules lawyer. Either appeal or accept the ban, but stop eating everyone’s time with your slanted view.

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You don’t know that, I don’t know what, CS doesn’t know that and they advised to ask on forum. These are only facts so far and I try to get real answer.

The reason multiboxing is aimed as cheating software is because cheaters use same input to control few different instances and do the same things on all of them. If you control them with different inputs how are you able to cheat? It’s technical discussion, if you don’t understand differences between few different options I described or basics how scripts work, then don’t answer.

Another disturbing fact is that now they can ban you just for having specific software on your device, not even for using it for wow, but for different games. And again, they didn’t give details of what software it might be there.