Is this layering exploit why so many in pre-MC full BIS?

Seeing people running around in full pre-MC BIS. Is this how they are doing it?

My god what a launch gaffe.

I don’t even have the stomach to play now if this is why. I know they won’t wipe servers, they’ll claim they “banned” them. I doubt they can even tell who all was involved unless they have a ridiculous amount of coin or something. Being full BIS isn’t enough evidence for them to act on… and banning doesn’t fix the massive ripple effect, that damage would already be done.

I hope they open some fresh servers.

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I am with you. I was leveling a hunter to 47 and a mage to 34 and looking forward to gearing up for raiding. Now I have just lost all interest…might as well go back to retail and get free gear there if classic is just going to be free exploit gear.

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Oh boo hoo, some people cheated and that makes me not want to play. Anything these guy have cheated to acquire will be removed and won’t even affect you because you’re not even close to max level yet.

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Haha dude…no. I can tell you 100% you can get pre-raid bis very easily without any layering abuse or exploit. I did it in under 2 weeks.

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I was trying to hurry up so I can get a raid slot… I still have a couple weeks of leveling and what I thought was gonna be months of dungeon grinding… now I’m competing with people who are essentially months ahead of me.

Yea, totally just killed my desire to play. I even cancelled my 2 vacation days I was gonna take thu/fri now. I have totally went from so stoked to neaseous in 5 minutes flat.

I won’t stick around unless they roll some fresh realms. I’ll go play Elysium’s BC server otherwise. Totally fine either way really. I’ll come back to classic down the road if they ever go to BC.

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Will it though? My heart and brain say yes but blizzard is known for making stupid,decisions

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Yikes at being at that stage already.

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I’m almost in full pre raid bis and havnt exploited at all. Just play a lot.

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No. If someone’s in pre-BIS that doesn’t mean they used the dungeon exploit.

IIRC the way it worked was, the dungeon layer-swap would respawn everything with the same loot, so players would NOT have multiple chances at different loot. They could farm the same loot over again, sure, but this results in getting multiple people of the same role (healer/tank/dps) geared in pre-bis at the same time, rather than a single person getting decked out via the exploit.

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Man your delusional and full of it.

Honestly if they would just remove layering I could see past it.

But no, Blizz just refuses to admit they made a mistake I guess.

A lot of people aren’t able (or willing) to see the damage layering is causing. It goes beyond “oh someone exploited, but that doesn’t effect me”. It impacts economy, leveling, and so much more. Classic was about bringing people TOGETHER not dividing them up.

Its added a new focus to the game (for a lot of players) which is “layer hopping”. You now see people spamming chats asking for a layer invite.

Its just wrong in so many ways. This was NOT the Classic experience.

And im willing to bet most of the ones who support layering are retail scrubs.

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They are literally taking action and these posts are still being made.

Makes me LOL that people are so upset by what others have and they aren’t even at a level to farm it themselves yet.

I’m lvl 50 myself, and i look forward to running brd, lbrs, ubrs, etc over and over to get my dungeon gear. Then i’ll join a real guild for some raiding action.

Seeing a dozen people on my server in dungeon sets doesn’t disenfranchise me. I’ll earn my stuff when i get there -> Stop worrying about what others have and do, play for yourself and your fun

also, exploiters looking like they’re getting 3-6 month suspensions and/or permabans (forum talk, can’t validate).

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A lot of people are running Live / UD Strat, Scholo, UBRS, LBRS, and I am one of them whom ran it for 6+hrs a day. It is totally possible to be pre-bis.

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Watch some videos of week 2 MC raids. Unlikely that they got their blue and purple gear that quickly without taking advantage of layering.

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More knowledge about the game now available than then, however some of what you said makes some sense and hopefully has been considered.

I’m sorry i’m a little lost as to what this thread is even about. Its perfectly possible for people to be in full pre raid bis by this time if they’ve put in the time and effort, exploit or not.

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I played on Detheroc with Offense with the same name. Intrepid was a rank 14 warrior in my guild that I regularly made a joke out of in duels. We had around 8 grand marshals and cleared MC and BWL in our PvP gear. I had the first bindings of the windseeker on the server. This is all stuff that can be verified if you ask anyone who played on Detheroc. Hell you can ask Venruki who was in Plagued on the horde. I camped him regularly.

But hey, you don’t think that I played and you probably won’t believe what I just said.

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Don’t bother informing them of this. Some players seem to believe instances have a week lockout.

I remember killing that rare boss just inside live strat from the undead side for cloth boots multiple time in an hour.

WoW is built around envy. That’s why the Inspect command exists. And why the armory was eventually developed.

Report his posts and get this toxic gnome out of the forums for a few days. Forum bans are quick to take effect. On topic: you can pre-bis quite fast.

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