Is this considered Gameplay Sabotage?

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

But it’s not that cut and dry here. Blizzard has repeatedly upheld that votekicks can happen for any reason in LFD.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Fauxstrasza-stormrage

And keep in mind, in m+, the group leader can remove anyone for any reason.

The tank was not the group leader.

The onus is on him to leave the group if he sees an issue. Before the key goes in, preferably.

So how is it reasonable again?

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Fauxstrasza-stormrage

Namely this bit.

Maybe don’t cherry pick and read THE NEXT PARAGRAPH. You know, paragraphs… subdivisions of a conversation to separate different points…

@Sendryn-sentinels

Also, straight from the support article on the Blizzard website:

If you encounter behavior in chat that demonstrates malicious intent to sabotage the run of your Mythic+ group, you can report the player by using the right-click option in-game.

Even when you’re wrong, you still can’t admit you’re wrong. It’s sad.

[Arandi-moon-guard (Arandi)]

@Ritualist-hakkar

After we sat for like 2-3 minutes with him refusing to pull I was just like “You know what, a +3 isn’t worth this.” And kicked the tank

Good on you.

[Kentaurus-turalyon (Kentaurus)]

Interacting with Faux be like

[Boomdoggle-zuljin]

@Ritualist-hakkar

Once I reported him the whispers were gone

They became part of the report.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Holding someone’s time and ‘fun’ for ransom is a thing.

Fun, last time i check, is not a currency you use to buy or sell things with.

And despite the popular belief, time is not money. Otherwise those who believe it wouldn’t play video games.

@Quivermethis-rexxar

EG a tank throwing a fit and refusing to move until their demands are met.

Pull the boss over to him, misdirect, and he can either aggro the boss, or just die and leave.

Or try to 4 man it. I mean it is a 3+.

[Ritualist-hakkar]

@Fauxstrasza-stormrage

But in theory, it’s possible.

There wasn’t any evidence to suggest the boss would’ve been easier without him though, as he had performed all other boss mechanics correctly. In fact up until the dragon pull, nobody had died. The run was going pretty smoothly up until that point

@Kiofea-illidan

I think you’re focusing on the wrong thing here…

Oh he was reported for the insults first and foremost. I was just wondering if it also falls under sabotage. Part of me was hoping he could be punished for both lol.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

Alleria should just report Xal’atath tbh

[Sendryn-sentinels]

No… it’s worse than that. I’m pretty convinced it’s this:

[Kentaurus-turalyon (Kentaurus)]

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Ritualist-hakkar

I was just wondering if it also falls under sabotage. Part of me was hoping he could be punished for both lol.

It does and it’s possible that he can. But I think they’ll choose whichever one has the longer punishment.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

People do not vet groups nearly as well as they should.

[Kiofea-illidan]

@Ritualist-hakkar

Oh he was reported for the insults first and foremost.

Good.

@Ritualist-hakkar

I was just wondering if it also falls under sabotage.

I don’t know what is considered “Gameplay Sabotage”, but luckily Sendryn has the receipt:

@Sendryn-sentinels

If you encounter behavior in chat that demonstrates malicious intent to sabotage the run of your Mythic+ group, you can report the player by using the right-click option in-game.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

Does that excuse him?

Why does he get an excuse to not vet the group, but the Azralon player doesn’t get an excuse to accidentally pull one mob?

[Ritualist-hakkar]

@Sendryn-sentinels

It does and it’s possible that he can. But I think they’ll choose whichever one has the longer punishment.

I hope so. The guy from Azralon felt really bad for messing up and kept apologizing.

I think the tank may have gotten to him saying how he’s bad because of his server. Plus the guy had said he’d been on a break since season 1 so he was rusty

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

I just want to see your mental gymnastics, please explain how this is reasonable.

…He didn’t say it was reasonable?

[Kentaurus-turalyon (Kentaurus)]

If they didn’t care they wouldn’t have apologized. I think it was good of them to try to own up to their mistake, even if it actually wasn’t that big of a deal.

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Ritualist-hakkar

Plus the guy had said he’d been on a break since season 1 so he was rusty

Hey, I’m rusty just from playing Remix. LOL

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

He’s been defending his ‘right’ to sit at the last boss and demand the Azralon player be kicked this entire time.