Is this class tuning a joke?

Monks got more buffs than holy and they’re in a far better spot than holy currently is.

Even resto shaman got damage buffs for farseer.

It’s hard to not be mad as an hpriest when real changes are needed and nothing is really happening or being said.

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Werent mistweaver monks borderline unplayable for the start of the xpac?

Mistweavers are one of the least played healers in Mythic alongside Disc Priests and Resto Druids. They bring very little utility.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#metric=hps&boss=2921

In M+ Mistweavers can outdps Disc Priests, but it’s a Resto Shaman + Disc Priest meta atm.

Oh ya monk representation is always low regardless. They only really see lots of play when they’re really OP.

But they’re in a much better spot in m+ than holy and received bigger buffs.

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Am I tripping? I remember mousing over my holy word tooltips before the maintenance, and Serenity read 1m healing, and now I am logged in and still see Serenity healing for 1m in both tooltip and combat log.

There was, in fact, a 25% buff to Serenity(and Sanctify), right?

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Blizzard always changes the meta up every season. Mistweavers are very on-and-off and only become FOTM when they outperform every other healer in overall hps by like +20%.

Also, with this stacking biweekly buff it starts to trivialize all the healing checks.

I’m pretty well only referring to M+ so the stacking buff won’t help us there.

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Seasons pretty much over though so we gotta hope they do some proper tuning in 11.1.

December 17th is 11.0.7 and then 8 weeks after is 11.1. That only leaves 10 weeks left in the season.

So we’re only half way through the season then, not what I’d call pretty much over.

No, it’s just trash development. There’s lots of specs that are extremely high performance in PvP, M+ and raid. They just did a crap job with Holy and it’s inexcusable.

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Man having someone personally attack a poster while talking about things being amecdotal is rich with irony and hypocrisy.

Take your own advice and just dont post at all. I talked about multiple confirmable aspects of the gameplay and how it doesnt work with the design of priest.

You called people names and showered in hypocrisy. The only problem is you.

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Stating baseless things like “Blizzard hates priest” is toxic and without merit.

I stand by what I said.

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Yeah I’m inclined to agree.

Although I saw this Holy Priest in a pug raid destroying and he was using Circle of Healing, so now I’m curious.

Yea I can destroy it too vs PUGs and pretty much always do. But it’s HPS potential is still lower than others.

So after some testing today I’m getting an average single hit of 450k for Sanctify on my 634 ilvl priest.
Thats 6.5% of my total health.
While it may make us look slightly better in a raid environment it makes very little change in m+ which is where most of us are having issues.

I haven’t seen any reason to drop CoH yet because it’s still 5-8% of my overall and I min-max it with 1-2 hard casts of Renew to max out Healing Chorus. An extra +15% crit chance on Flash Heal/Heal and Resonant Words would only cover half that bonus healing.

I’m also running 2 points in LoTN which makes my Holy Words reset faster and makes Apotheosis stronger.

Lastly, with how much movement there is on the fights on Mythic having CoH is beneficial to use when moving around.

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The reason I dropped it was because the lighweaving hps gain is imbedded in the lightweave casts. So circle is providing up to 8% hps - 4 % hps (from the loss) = 4% gain, at the cost of clicking (let’s conservatory assume 1 renew click) and 1 circle. Factor in the shear number of pts you can gain back from not choosing the entire left side of the tree and removing voice of harmony as its half as good now I feel like there’s enough in the change to make up for that remaining 4% hps, that is, extra talent pts + 2 clicks every ~ 15 seconds > 4% hps.

You don’t cast Renew as an actual heal, but as something to build up your Healing Chorus stacks, and that’s only when the raids at >90% hp. The raid ping pongs between <80% to 100% in about 5-8s on average so you usually get 10-20s between rounds. It’s pretty easy to get Healing Chorus at 20 stacks with minimal effort.

If I can sit and plant I’ll just chain cast Heals, but with how much movement is on these fights I’m constantly needing to move around. Heck, some of the fights have whole sections where you’re just continuously running non-stop for 20-30s straight. You literally can’t cast any single target heals unless you got an Evoker using SP on you.

All those bonuses piled into Heal doesn’t help when you’re forced to move.

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I know. Those were just my reasoning. I understand yours as well. It’s definitely a complicated equation to figure out which is actually the better performer. I went my way. I also get spacial!! But often use it just for hymn since it’s pretty much the only way to cast that safely :joy:

I agree. Blizzard recently buffed windwalker when it simply does not need the buff. Monks are doing fine but the complexity of ww dragged it down because many people cant use monks correctly because they have a life. The only people that play monks well are monk mains and they probably dont know to to play another class.