Is this bannable. Guy needs item in raid, wins it, then sells it to someone else in raid

Just finished up a raid. A druid had needed literally every piece of leather and won 5 out of 6 items.

Toward the end of the raid I inspected him and noted he hadn’t equipped any of the items he had won. I asked him" why arent you equipping your items?" He replied “I sold them to the hunter”

Is this a type of GDKP? Is this allowed?

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not gdkp, is it allowed? idk ask blizzard.

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Seems like it would be worth submitting a ticket. Raid loot for gold would fall under the GDKP ban I would imagine.

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This is something that you would’ve been able to report as griefing/ninja looting long before GDKP wasn’t allowed in SoD. Blizzard won’t give you the items this druid took, but he’d most likely have the items removed at the very least, potentially a temporary suspension on top of that.

Him having sold the items within SoD, when they’ve explicitly stated no GDKP and are seemingly going scorched earth against it, with little to no wiggle room for anything that could potentially be considered GDKP when not speaking in bad faith, would probably be considered GDKP by Blizzard and he could be penalized accordingly.

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The clarification was shallow

Don’t exchange gold for drops was basically it.

—Blizzard’s explaination of GDKP ban is only defined as “any raid or dungeon run where items are awarded in exchange for gold .”

We get into “spirit” vs “word”…

Basically don’t exchange gold in a raid environment for the time being to be safe in my opinion

Going full self found is the only way to 100% avoid a ban if you take what you hear at face value

People have said they have been banned for less ie trading gold back and forth across different accounts that they themselves own.

Personally I see it as their risk. I wouldn’t run with him ever again.

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Add him to your friend’s list then report him.

See if he’s still logging in after a couple of days.

no, it is not reportable as ninja looting.

the druid followed the looting rules of the raid, which is roll for the loot.

whoever wins the loot legitimately via the publicly communicated loot rules is free to do with the loot as they please.

whether this is equipping the item and using it or selling it or even deleting the item; the winner is free to determine the outcome of the item however they see fit.

an example of ninja looting would be this:

Druid was leader of the group, told everyone that all the pieces of gear are free roll… then someone wins roll against druid but druid masterloots the item to himself instead - This is ninja looting.

Merely winning a roll and then deciding to sell the gear instead is not and never has been classified as ninja looting.

now i cannot speak to this question because i am not sure whether blizzard would count this as a GDKP.

if the druid put out his items in raid chat and took offers as a sort of bidding, then yes it would very likely break the GDKP restriction.

but if the druid merely won the items and the hunter whispered him and asked “can i buy that from you for 5g?”. I would guess that is not against the GDKP restriction. Blizzard still allows players to sell BOE gear on the Auction House and this would essentially be the same thing - selling a piece of gear to one specific person whereas GDKP would place the item up for bid amongst a whole group of people.

They bought the gold my dude

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This is basically trying to loophole the ban, every need everything then trade items for gold after… Do it at your own risk

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This would be my assumption but we really never know.

Blizzard doesn’t have a perfect record and they have only started to get more transparent

I am hoping new leadership will bring some changes in this department.

As players we should know what to expect. Then we would know what is goss.

Very possible but we can’t prove it.

Yes, under Blizzard’s definition, its GDKP. No, it’s not allowed. Should have reported him
and told the others in the raid to report him instead of running to the forums tbh.

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will do thanks

I have some bad news for you then, because people have offered gold for item drops to their raid members since the dawn of vanilla wow.

I’d report it as gdkp and maybe they both get a nice juicy ban for it. 30 days and lost gold and items would be a fun lesson for them

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People do that in retail. It wouldn’t be GDKP since it’s no bids it’s just needing to trade at a flat price.

Least that’s the way I see it anyway.

The purpose of banning gdkps was to get rid of p2w and try to reduce gold buying and make it more fair for everyone.

If you are buying gold to offer people more than they can say no to so they give up an item then you are going against the purpose of the change and are likely committing a bannable offense.

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Fair point. :slight_smile:

I’m not sure how thats bad news for me… I support GDKP by the way
But as the current rules are, if dude is exchanging a raid drop for gold, that falls under Blizz loose definition of GDKP and would be bannable.

Edit: and as i said