Is this against the rules: holding zones hostage for ransom

[Sakujo-zuljin (Sakujo)]

@Polls-mankrik

We’re not suddenly governed by the 15 year-old Terms of Service just because we’re playing the simulacrum of a 15 year old game.

I mean ToS is different than CoC. The ToS is largely about making you agree to certain criteria while the CoC focuses specifically on gameplay and the CoC is very broad by design. In fact the CoC just says cheating of any kind is not tolerated and the article finishes by saying if you think your actions might violate the CoC then reconsider it.

The point I was making though is that Blizzard has been very clear that Classic and Retail are different games and are handling them differently due to the way the games work. They don’t need to justify this to anyone.

@Polls-mankrik

I cannot work under this assumption until you can show that it is…in fact, a bad thing.

Sure you can because this whole discussion started on the premise of something you said:

@Polls-mankrik

You agree that its fine to kill people trying to board a boat? Yes. Does it suddenly become wrong if someone tries to “sell a boat ticket?”

There’s two faucets to this conversation.

-Does intent of the activity change the response it gets?
-Is cross-faction collusion approved of by Blizzard?

The first one isn’t really debatable. Intent always matters, that’s why people who act recklessly get charged with manslaughter, people who kill in a fit of rage get charged with a crime of passion and people who premeditate a murder get charged with first degree murder. All three result in the death of someone, but all three intents were different.

Now secondly I got off my lazy butt to put this one to bed as well.

Shortage of Ony Heads

We’ve recently seen an increase in concerns about players resetting the Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer buff by killing the associated NPC. It’s important to note that this behavior is accurate to original WoW, and was possible in 2005 and 2006. Nonetheless, it’s the sort of thing that wasn’t widespread back then, and we believe that if it had been, it would have been addressed. In general, cross-faction collusion is antithetical to WoW gameplay, and the specific circumstance where players pa…

@Kaivax

In general, cross-faction collusion is antithetical to WoW gameplay, and the specific circumstance where players pay a member of the opposing faction help them kill their ally feels inappropriate.

The post acknowledges that they are not receptive to cross-faction collusion and that they would generally frown upon this behavior, but given the nature of why this is being done they are not taking action on it…for now. They are entirely leaving the door open to changing it down the road if something changes.

The fact of the matter is that blatant cross-faction collusion abuse just doesn’t seem to be happening all that often to really test Blizzard on this issue. I’m not even entirely convinced the OP really had this happen to him and it might have been a bait thread, but who knows. Regardless we can still talk about the hypothetical.

@Polls-mankrik

Except its not illegal. Its PvP.

I haven’t said anything was illegal about the PvP aspect, in fact I’ve been ignoring it entirely because it’s not part of the illegal activity.

@Polls-mankrik

Saying its a red herring that you can solve this problem with PvP is denying the whole point of PvP servers.

It’s a red herring because it sidesteps the actual discussion which is not about PvP. The discussion is about the legality of cross-faction collusion.

@Polls-mankrik

In your mafia analogy. It would be like that…but

There is no buts, my mafia analogy is rock solid in explaining that just because a solution exists for you does not change the legality of an act that caused you to consider that solution.