Easy. The people that have already won the game (max pvp rank, mythic clears) are selling those services in addition to buying gold so they can continue to have gold to buy the latest and greatest gear to stay ahead of the competition when the next season rolls out.
It’s a player driven problem made worse if to much boe gear is available.
P2W doesn’t mean a game requires zero skill, and no one in this thread has claimed that. You are arguing with strawmen. P2W just means using real world money for an advantage during a competition, by the way we are applying it in this argument. If they didn’t think the BOEs were useful, they wouldn’t be buying them. You are just wrong.
Also, minor point, I dont know where you are getting that from. Liquid (formerly complexity-limit) spent 279 million in SoD, far less than Echo.
You’re not a plane, you don’t need to announce your departure. Just admit that the evidence proves you wrong next time.
It’s not so much the BoE gear (which still has to drop or get crafted, so the only people who have it to sell during the Mythic race would be… Mythic guilds themselves) as consumables. It can take hundreds of wipes to clear some bosses on Mythic progression. For a full raid that’s 20, 30, 40,000 flasks alone! If you think they’re grinding all of that before the raid starts you’re crazy.
It drops from trash tho; you dont need to be able to clear the whole raid to be able to sell mythic BoE gear in the first few weeks. You just need to be able to get up to the point where there’s trash to clear.
You cared enough to look. LMAO … pathetic like I said. The cognitive bias is real with you. Keep telling yourself it doesn’t mater, when clearly it does. Sucks that your entire concept of self esteem is tied around world of warcraft. Maybe consider seeing a counselor.
I guess it depends on your definition of “winning”
Can you pay to get AOTC or CE or high m+ score, sure.
But that doesn’t mean you can perform.
You can’t pay to be great at your class and parse 95+ in heroic run (which is the fun of the game).
By your argument, any game is pay to win in the sense that you can just pay someone else to play your game and beat it / complete the raid / kill the bad guy, etc…doesn’t mean you’re good at it or can perform along with your peers.
We’re not getting around to reaching a solution 'cause you insist on name calling me instead of answering a basic direct question. There’s no reaching a conclusion with you, if all you want to do is complain about me looking for what you think is “winning” the game.
Blocking you, now. Enjoy “having the last word”, if you must.
In that moment in time, of that part I quoted, the question was not answered. You admit it isn’t until later.
We are but continue arguing.
There it is! Finally got it!
Got it, ty.
You did state because I (or anyone) who doesn’t view this game as “P2W” as “defending it”, when that’s true.
Along with accusing those who don’t see the game as “P2W” as “defending it”.
But, at least, we can finally try to find a solution to your issue.
