Is there an addon to disable typing for chat?

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Tanksdead-alleria

But does a video game that you play to relax warrant the same level of respect.

Yes.

@Tanksdead-alleria

Is telling someone what they allowed to do to have fun in a group the the correct course. As of the TOS these days it is.

The EULA has had a Code of Conduct since day one. And people were punished for it back then, as well.

@Tanksdead-alleria

But being disrespectful is subjective in many cases.

Negative words are negative.

[Tanksdead-alleria]

@Sendryn-sentinels

Yes.

I would disagree with this, even though I am usually respectful to people.

@Sendryn-sentinels

The EULA has had a Code of Conduct since day one. And people were punished for it back then, as well.

Much less, hence the “Barrens Chat” history.

@Sendryn-sentinels

Negative words are negative.

Telling people what to say is a slippery slop to tyranny.

[Mirasol-mannoroth (Mirasol)]

@Tanksdead-alleria

As of the TOS these days it is.

The TOS/EULA has not changed to speak of with regard to chat rules in WoW. It is easier now to report people with right click instead of having to make a ticket, but the rules are the same.

@Tanksdead-alleria

This is understandable as those people were being shown a level of respect. But does a video game that you play to relax warrant the same level of respect. Some people like to berate each other and be disrespectful to friends are peers.

You have it right. You can joke around and trash talk with your friends all you want. The folks in the public chat channels and group finders are strangers though. They are all ages and backgrounds. You know, the sorts of folks you run into every day and politely say “Good morning” or “have a nice day”.

Blizzard does not monitor chat looking for violations. They depend on people reporting things - which means strangers in public chats and groups.

If folks just keep in mind that there is a time and a place for things - some things are best saved for your friends group. Just like you said.

To do that, keep it to your own privately formed groups in game, or to outside channels like Discord. Use the “polite” vocabulary for the strangers in the public channels.

@Tanksdead-alleria

Telling people what to say is a slippery slop to tyranny.

You can say what you want, but you are not immune from the consequences of that speech. It may be that others just don’t want you around anymore if you say certain things, or don’t want you in their house/shop/platform. Private property rights are a thing that allows those owners to set rules, and to enforce them. So you can say what you want, but don’t be shocked if people react to it and show you the door (assuming it is mean/rude).

Also, just because it is sort of funny, I am going to tell you what to say. /hands you a “slope” instead of “slop”.

[Fostracize-frostwolf]

@Zugfiesta-tichondrius

i dont want to participate in it

You were born with the app, it’s called “self control”

You’re welcome.

[Tanksdead-alleria]

@Mirasol-mannoroth

You can say what you want, but you are not immune from the consequences of that speech. It may be that others just don’t want you around anymore if you say certain things, or don’t want you in their house/shop/platform. Private property rights are a thing that allows those owners to set rules, and to enforce them. So you can say what you want, but don’t be shocked if people react to it and show you the door (assuming it is mean/rude).

Also, just because it is sort of funny, I am going to tell you what to say. /hands you a “slope” instead of “slop”.

I completely agree that a business can always set the rules it wishes to run by. But they should also always ask them selves if they are being to strict. It’s a balancing act. Too loose and people will stop playing, to strict the same. But people can generally tolerate more on the loose side. It’s their business, but businesses have shot themselves in the foot before.

[Mirasol-mannoroth (Mirasol)]

@Tanksdead-alleria

But they should also always ask them selves if they are being to strict. It’s a balancing act. Too loose and people will stop playing, to strict the same. But people can generally tolerate more on the loose side.

Of course, it does come down to money, to a large degree. It also comes down to what sort of community Blizzard wants to have.

They don’t go LOOKING for people trash taking in their guild with their friends or in their premade friend dungeon group. There is no AI running scanning all that we say. That WOULD drive players away.

What they do want, is a public image that the game is civil and polite for the general public of all ages and backgrounds.

There is also the huge anvil over the head of every company - lawsuits. Nobody wants that. After all activist and legal crusades condemning D&D, music, movies, TV, etc as “satanic” and “destroying our children and society”, the entertainment industry agreed to self regulate. To set limits on the kinds of images shown, language used, topics discussed, etc. To rate the content and warn parents. They also can’t rate player interactions because they are in real time, so they set rules that are safe. Safe enough nobody can accuse them of intentionally allowing someone to be mistreated.

Yeah, so all those parental warnings and such and lawsuit happy people is why we keep our colorful chat to our friends groups or Discord.

[Atana-wyrmrest-accord]

I was only reported once like, 10 years ago for raging in a BG chat. I’ve never had any issues with chat before or after that day. How do you find yourself on the wrong end of reports simply for “telling people what to do” ?

[Paeldryth-hyjal (Paeldryth)]

@Tanksdead-alleria

Telling people what to say is a slippery slop to tyranny.

All employers are tyrants. Welcome to the struggle comrade.

[Thelei-stormrage]

@Zugfiesta-tichondrius

i want to see chat and read…but i dont want to participate in it

So just don’t type? I mean if you want to see chat, but not participate… I mean I guess I could be being Norwegian and not understanding your conundrum completely…

[Tanksdead-alleria]

I opened my own business to get around all that. lol. But, TY.

[Tanksdead-alleria]

So you believe they are already erring on the side of free speech. I would probably agree for most things. I have never been banned or anything close to it. But It’s still always something worth looking into. Am I trading freedom for safety, those who do lose both eventually.

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Tanksdead-alleria

I would disagree with this, even though I am usually respectful to people.

That’s your perogative, but socializing in a game should not be treated differently than socializing IRL.

@Tanksdead-alleria

Much less, hence the “Barrens Chat” history.

Incorrect comparison. Barrens chat was a bunch of jokes not aimed at people. Trash talking others in a dungeon does not equate.

@Tanksdead-alleria

Telling people what to say is a slippery slop to tyranny.

No one is telling you that you can’t say something. They’re telling you that you face consequences for said words if they go against a private corporation’s rules.

This ain’t the government, sir and/or madam.

@Tanksdead-alleria

I completely agree that a business can always set the rules it wishes to run by. But they should also always ask them selves if they are being to strict.

There is nothing overly strict about Blizzard’s rules. Don’t call people “idiots,” or “bad at the game” or insult them with swear words in random pugs.

In over 18 years of playing this game, I have never once been actioned in this game. Or any online game I’ve ever played, for that matter.

[Phoenix-fizzcrank]

Just don’t type in chat. Not sure why you need an addon.

If you know what you say is going to lead to people reporting you, become that silent observer.

[Tanksdead-alleria]

@Sendryn-sentinels

Incorrect comparison. Barrens chat was a bunch of jokes not aimed at people. Trash talking others in a dungeon does not equate.

IDK, people trashed on each other pretty badly and lewdly in Barrens chat. But I understand if can feel more personal in a smaller group of people, and you are actually interacting with them. Not just talking trash in a whole general area chat.

[Mirasol-mannoroth (Mirasol)]

@Tanksdead-alleria

Am I trading freedom for safety, those who do lose both eventually.

That is a critically important topic - but it really does not apply to being nice to people in video games I don’t think. That is a discussion about Government controls and monitoring vs freedoms of the people.

This waves hands is not the place to get into that discussion though.

[Boomdoggle-zuljin]

The truth is that people who complain about “cancel culture” are the worst offenders who wish to cancel everybody that has a different opinion from theirs.

[Tanksdead-alleria]

I suppose, but solid ideals for regulation are solid ideals for regulation. Still I do get that being scolded/banned in a video game is not even close to imprisoned for wrong think.

[Boomdoggle-zuljin]

@Tanksdead-alleria

IDK, people trashed on each other pretty badly and lewdly in Barrens chat.

I didn’t play vanilla. But certainly during classic I saw no insult-slinging in Barrens chat. They’re a bunch of low levels in that zone. The only “lewdness” I saw was a few Chuck Norris jokes.

“Chuck Norris is so virile he knocked up Mankrik’s wife.”

[Tanksdead-alleria]

Back in the day the player level for the Barrens was 12 - 40. because RFK was a mid 30’s level dungeon. upper Barrens was lower level, lower Barrens was higher level. So people were there for a very long time, but not only there. You used to have to go to lots of areas in the world to level up, with tons of back and forth. Like questing in the Barrens you’d get a quest to deliver a turtle shell to Silver Pine.

[Taterthot-uldaman]

you dont understand how much ick-riding goes on public chat.

Got banned for telling a mage in a bg his low level water was useless after he demanded everyone else in the bg report me afk for not taking his trade. Not a mute. A full ban. I didnt insult him. I didnt call him stupid. I didnt say he was useless. I said his water/food was useless because it would take 3-4 of them to refill my health, and I had better food.

Banned.

Its all automated, and as soon as one crayon eater starts trying to cook up a pearl, you are done.