There’s 1+hr queues during prime time. You said it yourself, am hours. You have to look at when people play, not just you.
I think BGs and BWL will see some people return but I don’t think it’s dying by any stretch. I thought it would be much more dead than it is, so this is a pleasant surprise! Glad to see so many still loving the game, it’s awesome.
Two months in at that.
Another person who has no friends crying about dead servers. The servers are full every night, except 4. If anything there are more subs now than at launch.
My server?
How about you tell us what server you play on?
I play on Earthfury and right now it is low population, and in prime time it is busier than any Vanilla server I ever played on. If you spent more time in-game making friends instead of crying on the forums your experience could be different.
not my experience in the least. have a log in queue last few days again on my server. during the morning it should be dead. Anyone with a daytime job or that goes to school is going to be there not able to play. What zones are you trying to quest in. No matter how busy a server is some zones just never seem to catch on. There is definitely no shortage of pvp going on out in the world either. Go to STV or EPL or Tanaris or Badlands and it seems like it is quite easy to find someone to kill or be killed by. The game is as good as you make it. If you go out of your way to try to make friends much like in real life you will make friends. If you expect people to walk up to your table in the lunchroom and say hey will you be my friend you are probably going to be disappointed.
From long years of experience:
If you have to ask if the game is dying, it isn’t.
Don’t mind me I’m just here to see what the dead servers are so I can actually level an alt in peace.
24/7 competition got old a month in and has yet to die down on my still layered server
I don’t think the game is dying at all.
Personally I DO want to play more… but now my nights are filled with the new Destiny 2 expansion which I’m having a blast with. I’m guessing once I hit max power level there I’ll just be logging on for the weekly stuff on tuesdays and wednesdays and go back to WoW…
… unless I end up getting The Outter Worlds.
… also depends if most of my friends end up grabbing the new Modern Warfare.
… also Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC is coming out… I don’t play consoles so I might check this out as well…
… also that new Star Wars Bioware game looks promising…
… then in January Monster Hunter World: Iceborne comes out and that will be all I play for months.
… but YES definitely somewhere in there I want to play WoW. Dammit.
The game can either burn itself out quick by releasing the phases faster or become a slightly smaller but steady revenue source by taking its time. Any time Blizzard has tried to cater to the speed crowd has failed. People who rushed will rush through it all and still not be happy. Blizzard can try to please that small percentage or they can try to retain the majority of more casual players. Care to guess which one Blizzard is going to pick?
Yeah the original release schedule doesn’t work because people go through content much faster now.
I have my pre-bis (plus some raid gear) with full enchants, my fast mount, and quite a bit of extra gold. There’s nothing else to do but complete raids once per week on farm or farm more gold that I don’t need.
No BGs definitely hurts the game. But I’m sure Blizz knows what they are doing.
Honestly I’ve been playing retail more than classic the past few days although there is nothing to do in that either. And 8.3 looks lazy. Hope I’m wrong because I really liked 7.3, but I don’t think I will be.
I honestly have no idea which way they will go… from their past behavior… they went all in with the zoom crowd… and nothing I have seen shows me they have learned anything from that mistake…
They stopped worrying about the zoom crowd in late Cata. If anything they have slowed releases too much even for casuals. I am just glad they havent put dailies in.
Classic will never die, there are people that would rather ruin their lives than admit classic wasn’t what they wanted. I have a friend who just sits in IF all day, doing nothing but starting fights on the forums about how much there is to do in classic. He does it on reddit, he does it on MMO champ, he does it here. He barely plays the game, he just tells people how wrong they are if they don’t agree with him.
This was inevitable OP. WoW has a long history of struggling to maintain players, the early days it just happened to attract more than it was losing.
Reality of the game is the first month is the best of any release. After that its just a slog and trickle release of encounters.
Its no surprise Classic fell faster and harder than BFA. One of the biggest gripes about BFA (aside from being a total dumpster fire) was the grinds. Classic has a slower and drawn out grind so i couldnt see the anti-BFA grind type player enjoying classic.
The drastic drop in players means the committed ones remain.
Any non-dellusional thinker, knew classic would quickly reduce to its actual fan base, which is a niche group of players.
There is no mass appeal and any new game releases with this design are destined to flop.
Classic flopped harder than BFA. Numbers dont lie.
A lot of the classic diehards spend more time talking about classic than playing it.
I feel ya there, the cool thing is though XP doesn’t decay so just grinding through these last few levels is the only thing left til level 60 grinding!
You love PvP but you don’t like WPvP? You do know that once BGs are released you can do those on any server, right? You didn’t need to roll on a realm that you can’t handle considering the only thing that separate the two is the one thing you’re complaining about.
But you’re not even level 60? It’s odd that you want more content but you haven’t even cleared all the content that’s available to you. It’s like asking for another serving when you still have half a plate left, its unnecessary and it comes off as bratty/selfish/spoiled.
So that way you can hit level 60 dude! It’s not dying out either, have you seen the servers that just had their layers removed? The servers can barely handle it.
Wow, what a weird friend.
I wish the BG’s would have been live since day 1. Don’t have to put the pvp rewards in or even Honor. Would have helped change up our gameplay besides the constant grind.
i had a 2hr que to get in last night…
ROFL
PS: your friend is a tool.
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Obviously the initial launch weeks were going to have a much larger amount of players. People literally took time off from work. And as you point out, many people bought a month (or visited from retail) and found it didn’t hold their attention. Not really anything Blizzard can do about that; people enjoy different things. Blizzard has multiple other games that cater to different personalities/desires.
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You seem to be suffering from “viewcount-itis.” This is a condition wherein a videogame player becomes overly concerned about playing the most popular game on Twitch, and if the viewcounts of said game start dropping for any reason, they become anxious that the game is “dying.” The only solution to this deadly illness is: Play. What. You. Like.