I would like to say first that I started playing this game a month ago, and it has been a wonderful expierence so far.
I’ve seen a lot of complains and mostly hate in this forum, and I would like to adress the tank shortage problem.
Well, the way I see it, we got this world, and we got free will to choose between whatever class we want.
For some reason the community dont roll much tanks, apparently.
How is that a blizzard problem?
What are the complainers doing to solve this issue? Why dont YOU roll a tank?
This is an honest question, is it that bad being a tank?
And on top of it all, these complainers often demand changes like “more boosts”, “dual spec” etc etc to try to solve this issue, not even once I read something like: “Maybe I could roll a tank if theres not much of them?”
You will run into problems at the endgame rolling a tank unless you get into a guild that gives you a dedicated raid spot.
The trouble is, with the exception of Kara, the number of tanks needed for raid content doesn’t stay constant to 5-mans. Once you get into larger raid groups they require less tanks as a percentage of the group size. So tanks that have no trouble pugging into 5-mans start seeing guilds only looking for dps or healers to fill raids and they’re just left there wondering why they rolled a tank in the first place.
Why would someone roll a tank if they wanted to play a mage. The game has had this issue for its entire existence. People won’t tank if they don’t enjoy it.
Tanking is a LOT of fun, granted you are in a good group. Problem is tanking randoms, there’s a very good chance that one or more of your party is a jerk, or a zoomer who sets the pace regardless of healer mana etc. it can be problematic. Personally I find it a good way to learn.
It’s a fact that these features don’t entice people to tank. Let them complain, it’s not going to happen.
No, tank shortage is not a blizzard problem. It’s a player driven problem, and it’s mostly from people having “expectations” for playing a certain way. And this makes some people nervous to even try it. Even if saying “I’m new to tanking” or whatever, that mage will still try to aoe pull everything just because he wants to go zoomies. And then complain about how bad of a tank they are.
I had a warrior in classic and went Prot for the TBC dungeons. I tanked a Ramparts run, was told to pull more. I told them that it wasn’t a good idea. They basically said shut up and do it anyway. So I did and died. Then they all told me I suck. No thanks. As a DPS I respect the hell out of tanks, and will CC or hit any target that they ask me. The problem is that people want to go fast no matter what. These guys need to go back to retail.
Tanks are expected to lead the groups, and as such they’re expected to know everything about a dungeon before joining. It’s a large issue when starting to tank for the first time - people are often just too intimidated.
In pugs, yes, due to what I said above. Just as someone else said, the raids vs. dungeons tank breakdowns mean that in dungeons there’s an underabundance of tanks and in raids there’s an overabundance. That means it’s incredibly hard for a prospective tank to find a tank spot for raids, but incredibly easy for any random person to get a tank spot in dungeons. If someone wants to play their tank character, it’s quite likely that they can only play it in dungeons and not in raids, or they’d have to play a DPS spec in raids.
I’m one of those players who essentially only tanks, and if I don’t have a raid tank spot, I’d rather not play that character.
If you have DPS like that, either you just kick the offending DPS from the group or leave yourself and let them find another tank.
I for one will leave a group if I am the top DPS as the tank or they are becoming obnoxious when they pull aggro because they are not attacking the marked mob or doing their CC jobs.
Seems like there are a ton of DPS like that now. Even on my DPS toons i am coming across some absolutely toxic DPS. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not exclusive to DPS. I found some toxic tanks and healers as well, but my god everyone needs to take a chill pill. Can Blizz patch in an attitude adjustment?
They made sure all tank classes were overpowered for the content and released an even better tank (At the time)
So now that we are reliving these classics through a new lens let’s keep in mind that the changes they make will have systemic consequences all unknown to us.
We can predict things like “future classics” an oxymoron if ever there was… But the reality is that phase 2 is about to drop and there is a revolt happening within the company. Best to stick to raising alts to deal with any tank shortage.
can i please just stress, 90 percent of guilds that have tanks as a ‘leader’ are horrible guilds usually revolving around giving every piece of loot the ‘leader’ can use to him, sure, he is in a prot spec that is designed to generate more threat and make him more tanky and he holds the boss in one place or sometimes movies the boss, or sometimes doesnt hold agro well at all, despite all the gear he needed so badly, but yeah, just cause the person is the most outspoken with sometimes right or wrong info, doesnt make them a leader. ive been in so many guilds where tanks are literally the reason i left. even in kara, my main tank had bis rings, he said he needed ring of a thousand marks and the crit ring from netherspite for ‘threat’ when no other tank in the game is using them.
so dont make ur self this smol thing that needs to follow a big strong tank, often times they are brain damaged players and typically playing the easiest role
Lack of tanks and heals is not a Blizzard issue. Players like to blame Blizzard because it is easy to blame someone else for your own shortcomings. Would dual spec help both areas… sure but the help it would bring would not counter the damage it would do to the game. If players don’t want to wait for tanks, roll one. That simple.
Given I’ve never been in a guild that isn’t rocking at least one or more Guild Leaders in the Tank role, and the only one that genuinely sucked had zero Tank officers… me thinks you’re whining about something else…
Protadin “stole” your Gruul sword?
/giggle
Then step up to a leadership role or stop whining.
Your entire complaint about Tanks was actually a complaint about officers taking loot and/or making bad calls about loot… which has nothing to do with any role whatsoever.
i don’t see how dual spec would create less tanks. i know plenty of people that would be down to tank for me, but they are in pve spec of pvp spec at the time. not having dual spec is the new being world buff locked from vanilla.
it’s a bad way to play the game. it becomes harder to enjoy all the aspects of the game and forces you to always be choosing 1 or the other.