You do know that this argument started with Moose’s comment on how “there isn’t enough demand to bring back RSV to the game”, don’t you?
Anyway…
I played back then so I know well enough that, on these forums(which is what we’re currently focusing on), there were waay fewer players talking about/requesting a melee-spec for this class, than there have been about the return of RSV, since the Legion-rework.
But by all means, if you think otherwise, feel free to prove me wrong.
So you make a statement of fact that is based solely on nothing more than an anecdote, and now you want me to prove you wrong? If that’s not one of the dumbest statements ever made… and that is saying something on these forums.
Moose is also just mimicking the crap you and Bepples say all of the time. I mean really…
The Highmountain Tauren in me is offended by this
Damn bro I thought we were tight and that we were gonna lead the faction unity by grabbing some brews
So in which one are you lying?
Wow, you really wna continue to ignore the root of this argument as a whole?
Here it is again(what started this particular discussion):
Now, about that anecdotal evidence…
I never said it was a good argument, I just responded to Moose with the same one that he did.
You do know that you can visit and read posts on a forum without actually posting yourself, don’t you?
Just to clarify, I’m a EU player. While I’ve always kept up with these forums, up until 2 years ago, I did not have a character on here that I could post on myself.
This may have been true, until you responded to me with nothing more than your opinion, tried to pass it off as fact, then doubled down and told me to prove it wrong. I also don’t believe you one whit about reading without posting considering you literally write novellas here daily.
DAMN it gettin spicy in here but spicy like the KFC Spicy Chicken Sandwich… but I must say it is a good sandwich!
I responded to you the way I did because you kept ignoring how the argument actually started, and, what it was actually about.
Well, for one, before Legion and the SV rework, I did not actually feel the need to post much of anything, and much of that decision to create a US character was based on how the EU forums, for the most part, are fairly dead when it comes to class specific discussions.
I thought my post history on the matter is proof enough of that. And since you’ve apparently kept up with it as of late, you know this already.
Also, again, note that as a EU player, you can’t by default post on the NA forums. You need to create a separate account(and keep it active) and get a character to level 10(the current requirement) in order to post on here.
Also, you have a weird definition of what a “novella” is.
Its “he”, did you just assume my pronounces? The nerve of some people…
Anyway, i thought people would be intelligent enough to understand this analogy. I guess i was wrong with you and have to make this a bit more clear for the simple minded.
I never claimed there was “no” demand, as you now already try to strawman me. Even me saying that in each thread where 2 people against a few dozends is obviously not a 100% empirical fact for every single thread that was ever made. Its kinda crazy that i have to make this clarification, but you seem to require it.
The point was to make it clear that while every now and then a thread would pop up where someone would suggest making a hunter spec melee (mostly it was suggested to make a BM-style melee, because Rexxar), every single time the vast majority of hunter in this thread would reject the idea to turn a spec into melee. A few would be fine with adding a fourth spec, but people who would want to sacrifice a spec to make it melee were always in the clear minority.
It seems youre really mad about something and need to vent, but if you would have been around during this time, you would know this and could redirect your anger to something productive now.
First, I wouldn’t question someone else’s intelligence when you can’t grasp that your statement is actually the one assuming gender. The nerve indeed…
Second, the vast majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. So maybe you want to sit back and reconsider whom between the two of us is setting up a strawman. Just because I don’t want you to hurt yourself, it’s you.
Third, I’m not mad at someone who lies on the internet to try and prove a point. It’s mildly entertaining.I did like the personal attack you threw in there. Shows real maturity from the person trying to claim the position of integrity.
I don’t know why people feel the need to debate whether or not melee Hunters were a widely-requested idea. For one, Blizzard themselves has said they were aware it was a niche concept. More importantly: we’ve had 5 years now of SV being one of the least popular specs in the game (often last place) to show that it was most certainly not a widely-requested idea.
In my experience requests for ranged SV to return post-Legion are far more common than requests for a melee-only Hunter pre-Legion.
As per usual: fighting people with an enormous gear advantage + properly using mouse movement while the opponents mostly keyboard turn… while also often going out to ranged for Aimed Shot as much as possible.
Was Classic SV better at 30 yards or 0 yards? The correct answer to that question shows why modern SV is not a good representation/derivative of classic SV.
Throughout your posts here you’ve been insinuating that I’m denying that Hunters could use melee weapons in Classic. I never denied that. The entire point was that ranged weapons was central to the Hunter identity and playstyle.
Patch 5.0 removed melee weapons as statsticks; you could only equip either a melee weapon and a ranged weapon (not both) and all your skills required a ranged weapon. Go look at how that affected each spec. Then look at the amount of effort reworking SV into a melee spec took. It’s plain which was more important to the class.
As I said: if they are going to make a melee Hunter it should be a talent variation within a spec instead of its own spec. Making its own spec while still maintaining the class as a whole as the ranged weapon user defies both WoW spec design philosophy and common sense. It just cements SV as the handicapped lesser option which is exactly how the overwhelming majority of the playerbase has seen it. Why waste an entire spec like that? “Using melee weapons” is not a strength in a class that’s otherwise defined by its use of ranged weapons. You might as well make a Rogue spec without Stealth or a Mage spec without spells.
Just play BM and run into melee range ¯\(ツ)/¯
A lot of people aren’t still here due to a lot of Blizzard’s recent development decisions, so telling people that the devs can do whatever and the players can quit if they don’t like it evidently isn’t sustainable for WoW.
If the developers keep designing the game for themselves, eventually they’ll be the only ones left playing it.
Having a different identity because as it turns out use of a ranged weapon wasn’t 100% of the identity of either spec, just as we can have classes with multiple melee DPS specs and still call them different. Enough with the double-standard.
Everything about Moosetesting is suspicious; either it’s an alt of Metroid (very similar posting + Metroid has been known to use sockpuppet accounts to back himself up) or a fan of his from the European forums.
Exactly
Quickly, praise RSV or else they gonna call 911!
sounds like you got mad another person experienced the same thing I and many others have. oof
LOL
The one you and bepples started?
theres the scapegoat
Thats the problem here with you, you have zero experience when it comes to anything not using a Bow. Stay in your lane Linda.
Didnt you say a week ago you liked to run into melee as MM?
Sounds like when you commented on of my videos with an alt account to boost your own post. How do i know this? it was on a video that didnt have much traction at all and the comments were all with in 10 minutes. Either way, Do I have to pay rent to live in your head? A little short on cash since I just got done buying the store mounts you hate.
Bro why are they after me!
This character is an alt so I’m not putting my guild name out when I post! I won’t be posting on my main here with how crazy people are being LMAO
Dont be a coward. There are too many of those here already
I kinda dont want to go deeper into this, because it doesnt really matter and was just a little sidenote, but could you clarifiy this? In my whole post im just writing “you”, which is as neutral as you can get. Would you kindly point out where you think this was done? But you probably just wrote this because youre mad and dont have anything better to answher than: “No, you!”
This is a really weak argument for MSV-supporters, since the percentage of SV players in the forums is way higher than in game. Also, you use the word strawman, but i dont think you understand what it means. You again just seem to have no clue what you should write, so you resort to a: “No, you!”
The idea of a melee hunter spec was mostly rejected in the forums and when it was implemented, it was mostly rejected in game. It cant really be more clear than that.
So theres that. But with how mad you are, you seem to have no intention to claim any position of integrity.
LOL That doesnt even make sense.
Thank god nobody cares what forum posters have to say ever. Its just a cesspool of crying, whining, pouting, and everything else to embarrass ones self.
lets rewind that clock back a bit
You will get it eventually, give it time.
Well if they had actually listened, they wouldnt now be stuck with the most avoided spec in the game. 
Also, i cant wait for that diss track, but lets just leave the other thread.