Is Retail Dead?

Please stop making a fool of yourself. If you don’t see the difference between AGDQ or the “IRL” section and are using them as examples you’re either too stupid to understand what I’m saying or are deliberately being obtuse.

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Oh, yes, sorry. I forgot now you get to re-set the conditions for your statement.

Oh, yes, sorry. I forgot now you get to re-set the conditions for your statement.

I’m sorry to be rude but you are an exhausting person and I hope you develop the emotional intelligence to communicate with other people.

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Things seemed pretty fine until you decided you didnt like the answers to the blanket question you asked. I feel like you should be the one looking in the mirror here after your replies.

Things seemed pretty fine until you decided you didnt like the answers to the blanket question you asked. I feel like you should be the one looking in the mirror here after your replies. I’m sorry but I’m not a good enough writer to explain it any clearer.

It was fine until you deliberately tried to argue your point in bad faith and when called out on it weren’t willing to admit it.

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There is nothing bad faith about it except you decided you didnt like it, so youre calling it bad faith.

Retail isn’t dead.

I think a lot of those watching the streams are either A) people who are in the queue and waiting to get in B) people at work/traveling/etc who cannot play at the moment or C) people who haven’t subscribed yet and are on the fence (they want to learn about it before jumping in.

While the huge queues are suggestive of Classic being super popular, I think Retail will actually be the winner in the end.

Think about it - Classic is acting as a contrast to Retail. People who were feeling fatigue in Retail go and try Classic or even play it for a few weeks/months. But then they go back to Retail and they actually might feel GRATEFUL that Retail is still there, as the more refined “convenient” version of Classic.

Also, there are people who may be subscribing JUST for Classic but then may try Retail down the road when they get bored but haven’t run out of sub time yet. Those people might actually find they like Retail, which could give it a boost.

So I think it’s too soon to tell whether or not Retail will be positively or negatively impacted by Classic, but I don’t think it will die.

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They’re two different games that attract two different audiences.

Obviously there’s overlap, but many tourists will leave and people will still play retail because they like how that game works compared to classic. Retail will not die any time soon.

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Using AGDQ as your example is arguing in bad faith and you know it. Either you are unwilling to admit you did this on purpose or are too stupid to see why it is an argument in bad faith. Either way it’s exhausting to keep explaining this to you and it’s pretty clear you don’t have anything to add.

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Here you go, took me all of… 30 seconds to take a gander. Siege peak playerbase, 176k. Peak viewer count 185k.

Boom, done, one exacmple, want some more? Or you you just hate proof and want to cherry pick more things?

Don’t see any difference wrt to BG queue times on retail from before Classic launched …

My hope is both iterations of WoW get healthy sub numbers. Though I’m not certain how we’d objectively identify higher participation metrics from either because subscriptions are concurrent for both games. I prefer BfA/retail but I’ve not tried Classic yet - started in BC, so it would theoretically be a new game for me.

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This, so much. I am waiting for the Hype to die down (A week or two ?) Then I will play tourist and get to at least Hillshire, so I can do the battle of Hillshire again. (And likely to 55+ so I can do Darrowshire at level again.)

Waiting a week so that the most toxic clowns are leveled out of leveling zones, or gone back to the newest shinest toy in the gaming world.

That would be the best outcome for everyone involved. I know my live friends are more tourists to classic. They like the idea of it being there to go dabble in while they enjoy live. Its just in everyones best interest to keep them both alive.

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You didn’t link anything…

We already have seen the death of retail years ago. It was called Cataclysm

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This is a great, positive post. Thanks, Zess.

As is this one.

Oh, sorry, I was waiting on your links to say its never happened.

(Also the info was linked by another user earlier, do your research)

Retail-WoW is dead since 6+ months ago, that was only alive probably the first 4 months after of release the expansion.

You don’t understand burden of proof do you? I am not going to go look through that previous posters link to find a cherry picked example that isn’t relevant.

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