Why you ask? Well the premaders themselves say it’s either 1 to gear up which I don’t really believe cause they still do it end patch when everyone has gear. And 2 cause they’ve decided they are tired of the “random” aspect of random bgs which implies that you are supposed to be placed with different people on a different map every time with sometimes extremely undesirable players and sometimes with very good players but they just can’t handle that so they premade to make sure it’s “good players” at least in their eyes every time
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There might actually be more consistent premaders than solo queuers at this point; generally I am pro solo queue but it would kill like half the community at this point.
They need to do more innovative things like add determination buffs if you are losing/dying repeatedly to help even it back out or more bad luck protection to ensure people stay around 50% winrate. Something that keeps both sides happy but makes it fair and reasonable.
I mean it’s not rated, no reason why you can’t get a little whacky to make it enjoyable again for the daddps and wfh crew.
I think the quality of player on average is also going up fairly quickly
Only die hard pvpers are pvping at this point
Games are getting pretty sweaty, people are finding their main (thank you blizz for not doing meta defining class changes every friday anymore)
Determination buffs in PvP. Jesus christ.
Or cross faction teams…
Theres a 13ilvl difference between honor gear and conquest gear. Its not going to make the difference you hope it does.
it’s unranked PvP; what are you worried is going to happen
Oh absolutely the avg player is way better than ever before. With the state of the game if you’re still catching lobbies you’re pretty much Bane in the Dark Knight:
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13 ilevels is one raid tier.
If you had a raid team in heroic raid gear compete against another raid team in mythic raid gear, their dps and healing numbers wouldn’t be close.
That’s not even considering set bonuses, gems, enchants, etc. on conquest gear.
I have no issues competing in randoms in blue honor gear and im no glad.
Doesn’t matter if it is ranked or unranked.
By implementing a ridiculous determination buff in PvP you artificially create an imbalance. The solution to whatever current imbalances you think are present is not to create even more imbalance and an artificial one at that.
My reflex for this rogue shows 30-19. All randoms, zero rated games. Less than 50 random BGs and I am nearly full BiS 450 ilvl (currently 445).
Gear is 100% a non-issue this expansion/patch. Blue is already good enough to do randoms, and getting BiS is easy af and dont have to do a single rated game.
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Well, I’d just flat out quit the game if something like that was put in place. It was bad in original Wintergrasp as well.
It costs over 9,000 conquest points for a full set of conquest gear.
If you’re nearly fully geared, that means you’re averaging around 180 conquest points per random bg.
Impressive.
And if the raid team in mythic gear doesn’t press defensives when the heroic raid team does their go, the mythic team is still gonna die. Yes ilvl discrepancies are redundant, but everyone being the same ilvl won’t change the instant death outcome of anyone who isnt already properly trading cds. And those who are using cds properly aren’t struggling from not being full bis
Unlike pve, in pvp you have to actively try to not get gear. You acquire resources for upgrades (conquest, trophies, shadowflame sparks) from just playing content you enjoy instead of relying on rng to acquire gear
Aside from a few matchups, a conquest geared player isn’t going to have to use defensives to kill an honor geared player.
Conquest is not BiS in many slots for many specs.
Tier, scalewarden, and shadowflame crafted is.
An easy suggestion for people wanting faster tier catalysts is do solo shuffle to proc the “earn x honor from rated” in the weekly vault. Even losing fills the bar up for weekly vault.
Oh, so it’s other stuff besides random bgs.
Yes. That’s the point. Gearing is incredibly easy and doesn’t require any rated gameplay at all. People have no excuse for whining about gear in current game.
Idk none of my characters have ever struggled in honor gear
My 300 ilvl 70 hpal pre rework still f tier status still topped healing in bgs vs conquest geared healers because they don’t press their buttons. I get 1800 on alts without tier sets and still wearing crafted 424 greens
I realize thats not the norm, but I swear people need to just toggle on percents instead of numeric health bar values and stop getting psyched over less than 13 ilvls