Is MC really that easy?

Thank god it is, it would of been awful if you disliked it.

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It always was in our raids during Vanilla. Mages were assigned to decurse specific groups. Druids were assigned to innervate specific healers. Healers were assigned to specific groups and/or tanks. Obviously, emergencies got called and overlap could happenā€¦but there were assignments for heals and cleanses throughout the raid, even on trash pulls.

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Easier than retail, harder than people think.

Lotā€™s of people that completed it had already done it countless times in private servers, if you take a look at an unexperienced guild, they take quite a few attempts to get it down.

Classic was more set towards Dark Soul style experiences. In fact, there were discussions on here about making the encounters more unforgiving, like Dark Souls. Blizzard went with accessibility over catering to the hardcore crowd. Personally, I think they should work on reducing the grind while only keeping raid content open to skilled players. Maybe, have a neutered version for people interested in lore where no gear drops.

Black Wing Layer is the gear and player check. You canā€™t get past the first boss if half the raid is not popping every cool down to dps him down, before he aoes your raid to death. Might need to have players respec just for that fight, and then spec back for clearing trash effeciently.

All of Vanilla WoW is really that easy. This isnā€™t a hard game.

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My guild did our first MC run last night and full cleared it. Only bosses not one shot were Baron due to someone new to MC with the bomb pulling a trash pack when running out and Domo took 3 pulls. After years on multiple private servers I can say that MC (and dungeons too for that matter) are definitely much easier. Damage in MC seemed to be a lot lower across the board and our veteran healers were frequently commenting on how much easier it was to keep the tanks up. We had plenty of people new to MC in our run, but gave a quick explanation of each fight before pulling and there were minimal mistakes. I would say your experience is probably mostly due to others not understanding the mechanics well enough to avoid unnecessary damage. I also canā€™t speak for the other healers. If theyā€™re not doing well/afking, etc, then it will obviously be more taxing on the others.

Get used to stopping your cast in raids, or that will be lots of wasted healing.
Also get the hang of downranking spells.

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I think our guys usually just have a healer on each tank for trash and the rest is a free for all with more specific assignments on bosses.

The above is great advice. Downranking and stopcasting is imperative in Classic.

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Pretty much this.

I donā€™t even remember people spamming for AOE mage groups the way they do now.

People just refuse to understand 15 years of knowledge will make you better and more effective and even worseā€¦

ā€¦they keep pretending the content was so much harder.

Now, Iā€™m starting to think itā€™s elitest wanna-beā€™s that are trying to degrade the experience of Classic to keep up the facade that the difficultly was so much greater so they were just ā€œbetterā€.

Most things I do now in Classic, I didnā€™t know or do in Vanilla. Hell, I didnā€™t even know how to keybind until around Naxx and I was playing MMOS for years before WoW.

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Vanilla raids for the most part are gear checks, they have a few punishing mechanics so if you take to long to kill the boss you get those mechanics to trigger more and the more the trigger the better the chance that someone makes a mistake.

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MC is legitimatelly really easy. Feels undertuned, but its nbd to me. If BWL is easy like this, then Iā€™ll be upset

Steam rolled up to Golemagg with a glorified pug (three diff. guilds merged for raid cause not enough 60s). Coulda full cleared but none of us casuals had the rep

We only wiped once, on Golemagg, because some range dps went HAM right off the pull and the full mitigation gear prot warrior (yeahā€¦you could MT in TPS gear easily) wouldnt get solid aggro after that so people were gettin smacked in the face. Killed him immediately after.

We even had a dude go afk on Baron and get the bomb in the middle of the range/healers. Baron was at 30% and everyone except maybe 1 or 2 healers and the melee got boomed. Still killed him.

Its easy, sure, but its still a BLAST. I was whispering my guild healers like ā€œIm gonna 2h tank this add.ā€ when I had to OT for some bosses (im fury). It worked.

Game is currently tuned around patch 1.12
Naxx originally came out on patch 1.11 in Vanillaā€¦ You get the idea.

Also, progressive itemization was a thing in Vanilla. ALOT of items that are VERY GOOD today, were actually really bad and lacked proper stats in early Vanilla. In our current Classic, all the items are in their latest and best versions from day 1.

On top of that, we know the fastest, most efficient ways to be raid ready, with the best gear and consumable and world buffs. Itā€™s been over a decade of learning.

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yeah no, people didnā€™t take the game as serious as you do nor have the resources available so yes. a social based information game is very easy. when you have all the information and when social is handled by addons that calculate literally everything. try it on a RP server with no addons. next.

Bwl wil slightly harder but not by much. People talk about gear checks but fact is current gears been buffed and talents are buffed. I wouldnt surprised if people went into bwl pre mc bis and cleared it.

You should pull the giants apart. If your healers canā€™t keep melee up through one Giants splash damage thatā€™s bad.

Those of us who have been practicing for years will.

MC was supposedly thrown together in around a week. The mechanics are thus simple and not very clever.

Less mechanics necessitates the mechanics present being more punishing if failed. Itā€™s easy in that thereā€™s not much to memorize - not in the sense you can ignore abilities present.

Of course. But the issue is that you can grab 30 random bodies in quest greens and do mc. Bwl isnt going to be that much different as people get better gear.

Itā€™s harder than Normal as well; Normal pickup groups donā€™t wipe 5 times on the first boss, didnā€™t even in Crucible. Heck, they didnā€™t wipe that much on Heroic Champion.

After years of doing any raid, it will be easy.

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yep. you ended up with worse-than-LFR players and no communication.

still managed to make it atleast halfway through it seems

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