I think arakara is stupid simple as well. You don’t even have to pull big or anything and you can 2 chest it super easy with even half competent people.
Hi tank here.
Why would I ever do anything above a 10 key?
In fact I just do eight 10s of mists in a day and then go back to finishing DF.
It isnt like there is myth track in dungeon chests to reward me for pushing keys. Waiting on weekly lootbox vault aint esports or meaningful so of course tank mains have no reason to grind m+.
I really want to, but there is zero incentive to fight the weekly lootbox timegate.
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People arent taking it as a fact, which is why stats got brought into it to esstablish a fact.
Due to sentence structure and grammar of the English langauge:
is posted as a fact unless otherwise stated.
Holiday WoW Bingo card for the 199th “wow is dying” square
Yeah, but spiders. 
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I’ve done zero Mythic+
delves on the other hand
https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=40519/war-within-delves-tier-8
50% of profiles have the account wide achievement for completing a T8 delve with lives remaining
cuz it account wide psure its safe to assume this means 50% of the player base has done a T8 delve.
I really don’t think 120k is half the playerbase. So yea, half the player base ain’t playing m+, but they are playing delves.
edit:
I never said wow was dying.
you added that part for dramatics…
I specifically stated m+ is dying, in a death spiral to be exact
My best guess is that player numbers are actually up from DF.
M+ is done for tho.
Nope. Just an opinion. It is now 8:38 on the west coast making it almost 1am on the east coast. Some folks only really have free time during the early evening after work, or a weekend. Others have pointed out they did their raids by Sunday to prep the vault and chill with keys today. If there is a tank shortage, maybe some DPS should make tanks and help everyone out.
Still just an opinion. I can say, “The sky is blue” and that is an opinion, cause some see grey, some see purple, and some know the sky is actually clear and the blue hue is the outer atmosphere filtering the darkness of space. If I were spouting numbers and stats I could see an issue.
Anyway, I am guessing you both are still sitting in Dornogal, jumping around in circles, waiting for your queues to pop if you are here harassing me 
Oh, and for the record…
That was an assumptive opinion, and not a fact
Figure I need to cover my bases.
East coast is 3 hours ahead of west coast. 8:38 pacific is 11:38 eastern. Still late for most folks though.
Rest is on point.
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Just further proof I don’t use a clock 
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There should be some tanks applying, but I’d be surprised if they just weren’t being picky. I’ve timed most 10s on main and it’s still not that easy getting into 10s as non-meta. Also GB sucks but they’re working on tuning so that may happen before season 2. 11’s are also much less popular than 10s as there’s no reason to do an 11 over a 10 aside from rating.
Yeh yeh, heard that story a million times before, someone tries to post something, gets proven wrong, turns around and is like “No uh, that’s not what I meant” and then tries to blame everyone else for what they posted.
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Can you really blame people for only wanting to play with prot paladin? Because of the stop change and how valuable interrupts are, prot paladin trivializes the worst part of M+ this patch.
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Unless you are pushing the cutting edge of M+ pretty much all tanks are viable. 11s are not cutting edge. People can be picky with who joins their group but complaining about their own pickiness is pretty silly.
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100% of accounts with level 80s have engaged with leveling.
Not the point you think you’re making lol. Just because i did a T8 and a T11 doesnt mean im actively playing delves.
Nor does it show how many delves were ran that week like you can find with m+.
Nope. English language lables that as stated as fact.
English language identifies this as an opinion
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Even so, you’re almost better dropping to a 10 and trying for a +2 to get a 12
Dead zones and all are a fun thing eh?
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respectfully, it’s a monday night, you’re hosting what appears to be a push/iO key, and i would venture most M+ runners will be looking for straight 10’s for vault, or even 8’s for crest farm on a Monday night.
I don’t think this yields much of a sample size to issue the proclamation that M+ is dead
yeah they suck, same thing for 9s, I’d much rather do an 8
dead - no
a toxic season everyone hates and are just doin raids and delves - yes
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Oh I was absolutely wrong. I was not angry enough to run to Raider IO. I was also not mad enough to come for someone’s neck in a “why is M+ dead” thread. I mean… SUPER important topic at 9:50pm my time. I was wrong about people raiding during the week. I was wrong about the current time on the east coast. I was also wrong when I kept talking to you and Grizzle. Cause you two are, and this IS a fact, known for correcting people in threads and continuing to fight with them even when they walk away.
Now… what I was not wrong about: having an opinion and posting here just to chat. Why? Cause neither of you are mods, and I am not violating any rules or code of conduct. You all feel free to keep COMING with the heat, cause at this point I am actually bored… and that is also a fact, just to clarify.
Now, I need another Mtn Dew Blackberry, and a new thread to chat in.
is there an account wide achievement for m+ that shows at least the same level of participation?
I don’t and have never played m+ so I really honestly don’t know.
I really don’t think much more than about 10% or so of the playerbase play m+.
If it’s even that high.
and completed keys have dropped by 600k in 7 weeks