Remember the beta still in its infancy. There is plenty of time for changes to happen. I hope they take it out and have TBC play more like retail as far as leeway and lag compensation is concerned.
But it sounds like there is some tuning of leeway on classic that is distinct from what is used in retail? Although the implementation exists its parameterization is different?
That is not true. The actual leeway itself is the same. Delimicus posted the formula in the thread I linked and you can go on retail right now and test it.
The leeway feels different in Classic because of how it interacts with
A.) Tauren increased hitbox
B.) Spell batching.
For A.) The tauren hitbox and leeway together cause very large melee attack distances when combined. This is not the same as retail, because hitboxes were normalized.
B.) Imagine you’re at max melee range with the leeway mechanic currently active. You go to activate an ability that you are currently within range of. Depending where you are in the batch cycle, it could be 0-400MS until the ability actually goes off. Let’s say 200 MS for this example. Now in those 200MS additional movement has happened, but the attack has already been queued and sent to the server. In effect, spell batching is adding additional pseudo-leeway
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I thought Blizzard changed spell batching so it mimics retail’s latency compensation.
Correct, my comments on spell batching there are related to current classic. The beta and PTR are using the same batching retail has, which is approximately a 10MS batch (down from 400).
All these examples people are posting of “leeway is broken in the beta” are tauren though. Taurens had an increased hitbox until Wrath. I’m trying to point that it isn’t actually leeway people are having issues with, because the actual leeway is the same as WoW has now and has always had. They’re having issues with the tauren increased hitbox size. It is the combination of leeway and the increased tauren range that causes these extreme examples.
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You are wrong
Tauren Leeway as mentioned on a warrior hitting people through pillars is a major problem.
This needs adjusting.
There will always be spell batching.
Leeway still exists in retail.
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Did you watch the video I linked? You can clearly see the leeway range in BFA is the same as Classic. There has been no indication that it has changed since then.
Leeway is still in retail.
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Yes, Taurens could do this in TBC, it also goes both ways so taurens are easier to hit as well(edit: Taurens have larger hit boxes*). There was an old video from a Tauren Druid complaining about it because they couldn’t “pillar” like NE druids could 
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Ranges themselves are completely different in retail, there is leeway but it is absolutely nothing like what Classic players deal with
The apparent difference in leeway between the two games is due to spell batching and the tauren increased hitbox. The actual leeway mechanic itself is the same.
Much rebuttal. Much clarity. Wow…
It shouldn’t be. I was arms warrior in tbc and have no recollection of it being a thing. Something like that I would remember.
Leeway is still in retail, with the exact same formula it has always had.
Leeway in Vanilla.
Leeway in TBC
Leeway in WoTLK
Leeway in Cata
Leeway in MoP
Leeway in WoD
Leeway in Legion
Leeway in BFA
Leeway in Shadowlands
Leeway in Classic
Leeway on the BC Classic Beta
All of these are the exact same. Leeway has not changed or been modified at all in 15 years. Tauren hitboxes have been normalized, and the WoW servers were moved to a 10ms batch cycle instead of a 400ms batch cycle when the WoD prepatch hit.
Here are some links, you can see that melee leeway was the exact same in Vanilla, MoP, and BFA. It didn’t change between any of those expansions, nor has it changed after any of them.
turinpt comments on To all of those who claim Melee leeway wasn’t in vanilla (reddit.com)
Melee Leeway is a BFA Mechanic? | Classic WoW Discussion - YouTube
It functions drastically different in classic than it did in vanilla or it does in retail. I don’t know why, but it’s an abomination in its current form
It was pretty much confirmed, has been in WoW from Vanilla and is still in WoW to this day.
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