Playing around chill streak feels like a gimmick. It feels more like luck when you get more then a few bounces. There’s just so many ways to move out or pull someone out after you’ve setup with cc. Or it just bounces into pets and does nothing.
Frost dk does no damage outside pillar of frost to plates. My main hand oblite crits do like 38k. Non crits do 5k. My white swings do 2500 lol.
The healing/damage mitigation feels great against casters, but against melee all we got is death strike for healing, which is a major tradeoff since frost strike can hit “hard.”
Idk I think the biggest issue is having no mortal strike tho. That just feels bad. It feels super bad going into a pure melee arena and getting ran down
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2100 as frost in solo shuffle,
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Use this for DW just wanted to make sure you were playing with the right jazz
I personally play 2hand.
A big part of chillstreak success was absolute zero or monk stun, You need it for real chillstreak goes but otherwise its okay against double melee dps.
Deathstrike is kinda a trap ability, Max it heals me for like 35k which is embarrassingly bad without dampening or MS. Its fine if you’re delaying for a CD thats coming up or spamming to try to stabilize so you’re healer can come out of CC otherwise just kinda never press it. trying your best to chain spam and you might need to save sleet to peel for yourself instead of ccing healer. I do agree its pretty rough against double melee but atleast with frost strike/shattering blade you can actually do a bit of damage outside of pillar but generally you’ll only kill people during your pillar window. I still use the dumb cobalt ring because the shield does add up quite a bit with gloom ward. Its cheesy though and probably going to get nerfed again.
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I really appreciate the advice dude. I need like a street or vods to watch lol. Just hit 1600 and I’m super frustrated lol
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I was actually going to make a post asking if Frost DK damage is garbage outside of Pillar of Frost but it looks like its not just me. These 2-5k obliterates are laughable.
I know we are supposed to focus Mastery but im honestly tempted to try a lot more Crit to help those non killing machine Obliterates
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I know it’s a bad comparison, but frost dk feels weak AF coming from wotlk pvp lol. Oblites actually hit like a truck there
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Yeah one would figure oblit would always hit hard seeing as its basically our only dps big hit ability. I play my MM hunter or sv hunter and damn. They have many big hitting abilities.
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The thing is right now haste values are so low its more important to get haste to fit MORE obliterates into your pillar, Keep in mind youll never proc bonegrinder if you dont reach a decent amount of haste in pillar.
Also use fallen crusader and use avalanche to stack razor ice, Its just overall more damage as 2hand.
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I’m just gonna heal, which I’m sure the people in SS are happy about. Frost dk just feels like a budget sub rogue, where you do a, imo, weak burst every 45s ish
DW Oblit will net you a lot of resources, and despite the dumb nerf, you can still be quite tanky (if you can spam heal, that is). Not gonna hurt people THAT bad though, and the variables regarding your capacity to spam heal when needed, specially considering that your enemy can spend the whole time attacking you, will put you in a weird disadvantage point. I actually have been killing people because I can survive for longer than them, and by that I mean that the fights usually lasts waaay too long
Make obliterate speced into pure frost damage always instead of conditional and I think it will hit hard enough even without pillars up.
honestly at this point i agree
and just make the talent in the tree allow double stack killing machine
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That will just nerf Obliterate again. It happened with KM rank 2 introduction, it will happen again if its always Frost damage.
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meanwhile warriors get to go dmg immune and do 3x our dmg while healing themselves at the same time.
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Frost is very mediocre compared to UH. I regret buying my weapons as Frost (or not getting the 2H so I can at least play both). It’s not that it’s unplayable, but it’s so much easier and better to climb the ladder as UH.
The devs seem to like ignoring Frost and focusing on Unholy, for some reason 1 spec doing Ok is fine for this class it seems. I do hope though they do more adjustments Frost can’t kite and do big damage like Unholy can and since deathstrike and WoN was nerfed it made frost even more bad.
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Frost just feels bad in PvP right now. I really needs a healing absorb mechanic or a mortal strike to be viable in my opinion.
I’ve been wondering this for a long time now. Why do the devs always lets frost fall behind UH in PvP. Its not even a close comparison. Frost doesn’t have a good tool kit for PvP.
I really hope they take a major look at Frost in PvP. So far, yet again, another xpac where Frost is utter trash.
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To be honest I don’t think fury,feral,DH should even have a MS. I don’t like the idea of handing out MS as its already more prevalent than it probably should be.
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I don’t understand how having obliterate scale with frost mastery constantly would be a nerf.
It really only does frost damage during pillar tho. Killing machine has a whopping 4.5% chance to proc on a melee hit with no crit lol. It’s like 8% with full crit gear. Very inconsistent and lackluster
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