I skipped Cata, but my goal is come back with some friends and go for gold on at least one character. I’m wondering if it’d be better to transfer a character with maxed WOTLK engineering, or if it doesn’t matter I’ll go herb/alch and make invisibility potions.
Thinking of playing Resto druid, then DK/Pally/Lock if it goes well.
You still get nitro boost in mop which is pretty valuable with on-use glove enchant which makes it also better than most professions. Gliders are also engineer only as it’s a cloak tinker only in mop and usable in instances if I remember right. It’s not “required” but it’s still the best profession for min/maxing by far for dps.
Engi/alch will likely be the “BiS” combo for challenge modes because of Nitro Boost/glider and the alch trinket being extremely good. But neither of them are going to be required for groups to get gold.
Ok thanks, kind of what I figured. If Engi was going to be required that’d change my plans of what I was playing.
How hard is it to get golds? I read that they’re comparable to M+ 10’s or 15’s, but also heard some people say that you can wipe and still time a gold.
They’re not really that hard if your tank knows how to kite a large pack of mobs and people use their aoe stuns. Haven’t played retail since BFA but I’d say M10 from that expac is a good comparison.
That doesn’t sound too bad. Do you have any advice for someone who never tried them? I’m thinking about doing it on an Ele Shammy and possibly a Balance Druid as well.
ele sham is one of the best dps in cmodes iirc, insane damage and utility
I only ever tried a challenge dungeon once back in OG Pandaria, and it was with a group that was very…unprepared
Nowadays I don’t imagine they would be all that difficult, so long as you’re able to balance moving and dps. Any class and professions will be perfectly fine as long as you know what you’re doing
I’ve heard people did 1 or even 2 dps carries a run so hopefully that means they’re pretty doable. Can’t wait to try em tbh.
iirc, only thing that was really ever required was to get some invis pots for a few skips
the problem is you can never outgear them because they will always scale to ilvl 463 gear. Sockets give a big advantage but actual gear will hardly matter. so bad players wont be able to just outgear it and get gold.
required… as in its only possible to do gold with engineering? no
required… as in if you want to be that one team that has all the realm records? sure I guess but then I would ask why are you not in the class discords
Not hard
Maybe +5 with appropriate gear for that level. People will tell you that high because thats when they first where they can’t outgear the m+ difficulty - but mechanically they aren’t as hard as a +15.
CM Just works differently as you can’t outgear them. With full BiS SoO (minus legendary, that thing is just broken) you will barely do any more damage than full BiS T14.
That’s possible. As said, they are not that hard. You just need a tank to know the routes, your dps to play with their hands and a healer that doesn’t cosplay a grandpa on a wheelchair
That makes me feel better. I didn’t do that many M+'s in retail, but I know for sure that I was doing +6’s pretty easily.
I’m so hyped for them. I can’t wait to get some of the sets.
Btw. Others said that gems work. Do enchants also work in Challenge Modes?
Yes. Your gear its just scaled down to 476 ilvl (blues, Heroic dungeons ilvl). Gems, enchants, legendary cloak and trinket all work, but are scaled down. However, legendary cloak and trinkets can have some very whacky balance and can be notably stronger.
That’s the part I like, you can farm any raid difficulty for CM bis since lfr vs heroic scales to be the same
I’ve always been a fan of BS and JC over engineering. The two extra gems slots a 3 big boy gems are a constant output vs a CD on 2 items.
Depends on which expansion you are talking about, because a 15+ was easier in Legion than a 15+ in BFA.
Anyway from memory, its just 1 difficulty. And its all based on the timer, think of gold like 3 chesting a key.
Sorry for the late reply. My PC gave out on me.
So the legendary cloak actually works in there? That sounds bananas :o